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FIFY!

Another reason I got rid of my samurai was I was getting tired of being grouped with you simpletons that can't complete a sentence.
if you dislike samurai's so much, why are you trolling a samurai board? go back to your jeep board.
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isn't that suppose to be a copy machine?
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isn't that suppose to be a copy machine?
Are you blind?! Thats a dead horse!!!!! show respect!
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if you dislike samurai's so much, why are you trolling a samurai board? go back to your jeep board.
Cuz he comes in here to cry and wonder what could have been !
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news for y'all douche bags, every time you post it bumps it back up as a new post. i don't troll certain sections i just keep seeing this why a samurai over a jeep thread pop back up.(for the slow guys, most of you fit that, click where it says "new posts" and tell me where it has a section listed) probably being the only one here to have a jeep out on the trails at the same time i had my samurai i think i am qualified to address which is better. you can argue which is better but i have had them both out on the same day and in the same conditions, the jeep wins hands down.

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news for y'all douche bags, every time you post it bumps it back up as a new post. i don't troll certain sections i just keep seeing this why a samurai over a jeep thread pop back up.(for the slow guys, most of you fit that, click where it says "new posts" and tell me where it has a section listed) probably being the only one here to have a jeep out on the trails at the same time i had my samurai i think i am qualified to address which is better. you can argue which is better but i have had them both out on the same day and in the same conditions, the jeep wins hands down.
Sofludddin,
Since you are so articulate. Could you please educate us why a Jeep is so much better?
1. More bolt on garb?
2. Jeep 101?
3. Jeep makes wheel Barrows, radios, bikes, strollers ect...?
4. Dana 30 front end? Or the somewhat 44 rear end?
5. Have you done your SYE yet? Oh of course you have, cause it's mandatory unless you keep it stock height drive or drive on the street.
6. I know, because you heard Jeeps are cool. I must admit that some Jeeps are cool, but they do not have much more than a body and frame left.
7. Or is it that all the guys whistle at you as you cruise So. Beach?
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Sofludddin,
Since you are so articulate. Could you please educate us why a Jeep is so much better?
1. More bolt on garb?
2. Jeep 101?
3. Jeep makes wheel Barrows, radios, bikes, strollers ect...?
4. Dana 30 front end? Or the somewhat 44 rear end?
5. Have you done your SYE yet? Oh of course you have, cause it's mandatory unless you keep it stock height drive or drive on the street.
6. I know, because you heard Jeeps are cool. I must admit that some Jeeps are cool, but they do not have much more than a body and frame left.
7. Or is it that all the guys whistle at you as you cruise So. Beach?


You Sami guys really grasp at every straw yall can find. Kind of sad really.
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Sofludddin,
Since you are so articulate. Could you please educate us why a Jeep is so much better?
1. More bolt on garb?
2. Jeep 101?
3. Jeep makes wheel Barrows, radios, bikes, strollers ect...?
4. Dana 30 front end? Or the somewhat 44 rear end?
5. Have you done your SYE yet? Oh of course you have, cause it's mandatory unless you keep it stock height drive or drive on the street.
6. I know, because you heard Jeeps are cool. I must admit that some Jeeps are cool, but they do not have much more than a body and frame left.
7. Or is it that all the guys whistle at you as you cruise So. Beach?
upgrades/parts for my jeep over 10+ years...

winch
drive shafts
snorkel
exhaust
lift
tires (3 sets)
paint
bumpers-homemade
1 pieces rear axle shafts(amc 20 bitches)
bimini top



upgrades/parts for my samurai over 5 years...

winch
drive shafts
snorkel
exhaust
lift
tires
paint
bumpers-homemade front/bolt on rear won through zuknation
high steer brackets
stage 3 clutch (after going through 3 stockers)
webber carb
axles/gears
ignition
battery shut off
battery isolator
duel blue top gel cells
trans and tcase shifter bushings
water pump
alternator
starter (x2)
fuel pump
motor mounts(lost count and ended up straping down the motor)
tcase mounts(also lost count and ended up through-bolting and dampening with sway bar bushings)
multiple repairs to cracked frame(these pos's have a thin frame)
roof rack(you think a jeep has no storage space?)



way more $ thrown at the samurai with inferior performance. i agree that the jeep brand is way over marketed but to say it sucks because it is makes you a hipster, which is pretty damn gay. not one of my vehicles have a brand label on it but i ripped the susucki label of the samurai before it entered the yard.

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The difference being, you can slap some 31's on the samurai shoot even 29's some tracker diff gears for $150 and out drive Jeeps all day long.

Add a $400 transfer case to those 31' and a $99 spool, and you are spanking Toyota's on 35's.

So you spent a lot of money on your Samurai?..Okay that means that they all need the junk you listed? I don't think so.

The Samurai rides rough and has less room, but box stock, (even better with 31's) out does 99% of the rigs out there at half the price. Now if you want 37" tires, a 6 cylinder, and all the crap that goes with it, you don't need a samurai.

I was invited to a NAXJ meet a few years back. The first day they stuck me in the middle of the pack so they could "pull me out" the second and third day I was a trail guide, because my rig was one of the few that didn't get stuck, or breakdown.

Now if you add the fact that I can take off here in morning at 6:00 am, and wheel straight until 7:00 am the next day then drive home on 7 gallons of fuel you have got one hell of a rig.

keep in mind the Jeep with us lost an alternator, burned up a battery, and needed 2 jerry cans of gas. The FJ40 needed 1.5 jerry cans, and was constantly sliding off the trail.

Each to their own I say. I like my light weight, efficient, economical, reliable Samurai as a wheeler and daily driver. It doesn't mean you have to like yours, or the one you used to have.
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stock dana 30 =breaking strength 4400 ft. lbs.

stock samurai= breaking strength 5200 ft. lbs.

stock toyota = breaking strength 6500 ft. lbs.
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stock dana 30 =breaking strength 4400 ft. lbs.

stock samurai= breaking strength 5200 ft. lbs.

stock toyota = breaking strength 6500 ft. lbs.
where did you get that info from? i have never seen that posted before. is that front or rear axle?
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where did you get that info from? i have never seen that posted before. is that front or rear axle?
rear, and it wasn't easy to find,please don't make me try to find it ....
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im not sure what models dana 30 rears came in except for jeepsters but the breaking strength of an oem amc 20 axle shaft is about 90,000 lbs. you are seriously reaching if you think anybody is going to believe a samurai running gear is stronger then any jeeps.

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upgrades/parts for my jeep over 10+ years...

winch
drive shafts
snorkel
exhaust
lift
tires (3 sets)
paint
bumpers-homemade
1 pieces rear axle shafts(amc 20 bitches)
bimini top



upgrades/parts for my samurai over 5 years...

winch
drive shafts
snorkel
exhaust
lift
tires
paint
bumpers-homemade front/bolt on rear won through zuknation
high steer brackets
stage 3 clutch (after going through 3 stockers)
webber carb
axles/gears
ignition
battery shut off
battery isolator
duel blue top gel cells
trans and tcase shifter bushings
water pump
alternator
starter (x2)
fuel pump
motor mounts(lost count and ended up straping down the motor)
tcase mounts(also lost count and ended up through-bolting and dampening with sway bar bushings)
multiple repairs to cracked frame(these pos's have a thin frame)
roof rack(you think a jeep has no storage space?)



way more $ thrown at the samurai with inferior performance. i agree that the jeep brand is way over marketed but to say it sucks because it is makes you a hipster, which is pretty damn gay. not one of my vehicles have a brand label on it but i ripped the susucki label of the samurai before it entered the yard.
I call Bs. No way in hell a Jeep let alone a CJ would last that long unless it is just parked. I used to work at 4wheelparts when I was 18 as a mechanic. If there was a Jeep CJ in line to be worked on i would run and hide. They are outright scary stock, with just a lift.
I'm still hiding from them.

FYI, I have helped weld up a couple jeep frames on the Rubicon. They suck considering how thick they are. Why did you swap out those splined axles? Plus the parts fence at Rubicon Springs are mainly jeep parts. They do make a really cool fence, unless your donating the parts
I do not drive a Samurai or even have one, but have seen the potential that they have. On 31" tires are flat out amazing.

Even a pretty popular off road shop owner says that he caters to Jeep owner because they usually do not work on there own shit and they love to pay others to do it. He tried to cater to Toyota and suzuki owners but they are way to cheap.

I hope the OP goes out and buys a Jeep. if it's a question between the two he should not be at the Suzuki camp. You guys can have him.
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I call Bs. No way in hell a Jeep let alone a CJ would last that long unless it is just parked. I used to work at 4wheelparts when I was 18 as a mechanic. If there was a Jeep CJ in line to be worked on i would run and hide. They are outright scary stock, with just a lift.
I'm still hiding from them.
your right, i forgot i did change the ring gear in the jeep when i first got it. i also changed the fluids a few times. maybe the jeep has done so well because i don't take it to 4wheelparts so an 18 year old newb could work on it. seriously, think about what you said.
i will admit that every mud toy i have owned in the last 15 years have been trailer queens. they only hit the road when somebody else broke down and need to borrow my trailer.

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Why did you swap out those splined axles?
i had $150 bucks i wanted to spend and didn't have the samurai at the time to throw money at. i stripped the hub splines after the 80,000 street miles previous to me and 2-3 years of offroad abuse from me.

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im not sure what models dana 30 rears came in except for jeepsters but the breaking strength of an oem amc 20 axle shaft is about 90,000 lbs. you are seriously reaching if you think anybody is going to believe a samurai running gear is stronger then any jeeps.
90,000, that is really good considering a 2 1/2 ton Rockwell breaks at around
(I'm guessing here)14,000..

I have witnessed a half dozen rear jeep axles break at the c clip on 35's and I would have to take a harder line with
my stock rear sammi axle on 34's to avoid them..
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Lets see a picture of this so called bullet proof Jeep. Im sure you have one parked on that huge curb. What bucket list trails have you done?

Not a newb at 18. I had been working on cars, trucks and hot boats for a long time. I would easily put my skills at the age of 18 against yours as of today. Now twice that age, and have seen numerous jeeps debilitated on the side of a trail, my thoughts about jeeps have solidified into something that you will never be able to change.

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Lets see a picture of this so called bullet proof Jeep. Im sure you have one parked on that huge curb. What bucket list trails have you done?

Not a newb at 18. I had been working on cars, trucks and hot boats for a long time. I would easily put my skills at the age of 18 against yours as of today. Now twice that age, and have seen numerous jeeps debilitated on the side of a trail, my thoughts about jeeps have solidified into something that you will never be able to change.

Someone told me that a wise man can learn more from a fool, than a fool from a wise man.

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Lets see a picture of this so called bullet proof Jeep. Im sure you have one parked on that huge curb. What bucket list trails have you done?

Not a newb at 18. I had been working on cars, trucks and hot boats for a long time. I would easily put my skills at the age of 18 against yours as of today. Now twice that age, and have seen numerous jeeps debilitated on the side of a trail, my thoughts about jeeps have solidified into something that you will never be able to change.

Someone told me that a wise man can learn more from a fool, than a fool from a wise man.

You shall not hear from me again, fool.
your an idiot. i never said the jeep was bullet proof, it's just way better then a samurai. having owned and wheeled both i can say i am more qualified to talk about which is better then some nobody that is simply talking out of their ass. i'm guessing you wheel a toyota. i see it all the time, the jap lovers stick together. your anti-american vehicle mentality has clouded your judgment and made you incapable of being unbiased. your questionable testimony of seeing many jeeps broke down on the trails would be clearly obvious to any semi-intelligent person....sheer numbers. there are simply way more jeeps in existence in the usa than samurai world wide. jeep is an American icon so many more patriotic Americans purchase jeeps then would purchase some japanese pos. regardless of what some 18yo super mechanic that would admittedly hid from a challenge would think. hiding from a challenge was never the American way but neither was owning japanese trucks.

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thats a pic of where it is at now but that obviously isnt a "jeep" anymore. here is a few of the way she was a couple months ago.






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your an idiot. i never said the jeep was bullet proof, it's just way better then a samurai. having owned and wheeled both i can say i am more qualified to talk about which is better then some nobody that is simply talking out of their ass. i'm guessing you wheel a toyota. i see it all the time, the jap lovers stick together. your anti-american vehicle mentality has clouded your judgment and made you incapable of being biased. your questionable testimony of seeing many jeeps broke down on the trails would be clearly obvious to any semi-intelligent person....sheer numbers. there are simply way more jeeps in existence in the usa than samurai world wide. jeep is an American icon so many more patriotic Americans purchase jeeps then would purchase some japanese pos. regardless of what some 18yo super mechanic that would admittedly hid from a challenge would think. hiding from a challenge was never the American way but neither was owning japanese trucks.
i see the problem now... we are all anti-american.
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i see the problem now... we are all anti-american.
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acceptance is the first step.
so how does it feel, to know that fiat owns 52% of your favorite american company anyway?
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