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Old 10-23-2015, 08:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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went to Torchmate today and watched as the Accumove setup cut one of my most complicated files at 240 ipm. The system is very impressive. I especially like the ohmic sensing. and accurite height control. The look ahead and corner lockout worked flawlessly. The torch never colided with the material. It was cutting 16 Ga with Hypertherm finecuts like I use. I am extremely impressed. I ordered the Accumove 3 upgrade for my TM3 4X8. The only downside is the 10 week lead time on delivery .
Not a commercial, just my impression of the system. I called and asked for a demo with my file and Hypertherm speeds on 16 Ga with finecuts. TM was able to let me watch and video as the cut was made.
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Old 10-24-2015, 05:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Thanks Mike for posting this info. I was curious how the accumove would work on thin art myself (I do 12 gauge) and was concerned with the slower speed of the ohmic sensor over the smart motor. Some of my designs have over 200 pierces in them and I'm wondering how much extra time that will add to the cut time. Right now I can cut that design in 15 minutes. If it doesn't add too much time and I can walk away from the table to do other things that would be a big plus. Can you share some of the video?

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Old 10-24-2015, 07:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Like to see the video. Please post it up. When I was there.... It wasn't offered to run a demo
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Old 10-24-2015, 07:52 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks Mike for posting this info. I was curious how the accumove would work on thin art myself (I do 12 gauge) and was concerned with the slower speed of the ohmic sensor over the smart motor. Some of my designs have over 200 pierces in them and I'm wondering how much extra time that will add to the cut time. Right now I can cut that design in 15 minutes. If it doesn't add too much time and I can walk away from the table to do other things that would be a big plus. Can you share some of the video?

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I will try to get it up soon. It is a long video. The machine cut the work really fast. the ohmic sensing was a little slower, but the rapids between pierces were smooth and fast. I really like the stepper over the smart motor because of the cost difference.
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Thanks Mike for posting this info. I was curious how the accumove would work on thin art myself (I do 12 gauge) and was concerned with the slower speed of the ohmic sensor over the smart motor. Some of my designs have over 200 pierces in them and I'm wondering how much extra time that will add to the cut time. Right now I can cut that design in 15 minutes. If it doesn't add too much time and I can walk away from the table to do other things that would be a big plus. Can you share some of the video?

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You will likely find increased speed with the ACCUMOVE controls over our old systems. We are working on a video currently that demonstrates a side by side comparison.

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Thanks Jeff. My video is pretty shakey. Hope it gets here before the 10 weeks. Can't wait to get started with it.
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Old 10-26-2015, 06:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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As I think about this. I wonder what the " move between cut " time is. Is it faster than what we have now. With what I do now about 30% of my cut time is cut time. I spend more time moving than cutting. . If it is 1/2 of a second slower than what I have now moving between cuts. Then that will add almost 20 minutes to a sheet.

TH Support. Is it faster or slower moving between cuts?
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The rapids between cuts were awesome. I don't know the speeds, but it was fast.
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Like to see the video. Please post it up. When I was there.... It wasn't offered to run a demo
You could of had a demo had we had more time to set one up Charlie!

The torch height is adjustable on how much the torch will retract in between pierces. So say you know your highest tip up would be 1" above the material then you can program your torch to only retract just above the 1" so that you can have faster cut times and not retract the entire 3-4" for every pierce.
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Old 10-27-2015, 07:55 AM   #10 (permalink)
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You could of had a demo had we had more time to set one up Charlie!

The torch height is adjustable on how much the torch will retract in between pierces. So say you know your highest tip up would be 1" above the material then you can program your torch to only retract just above the 1" so that you can have faster cut times and not retract the entire 3-4" for every pierce.
ya, ya..... day late and a dollar short....
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The torch height is adjustable on how much the torch will retract in between pierces. So say you know your highest tip up would be 1" above the material then you can program your torch to only retract just above the 1" so that you can have faster cut times and not retract the entire 3-4" for every pierce.
That's pretty cool.
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Old 10-29-2015, 03:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks to cpreston for the cut file, we used for our ACCUMOVE vs Flashcut speed test.

cpreston really has his machine dialed in. That being said a few of our techs and engineers really want to step up to the challenge of emulating your quality with the same material, but we just can't dedicate the time to playing with the file when we are so busy, so hats off to you sir. When time allows, I know a few of the team are going to revisit this exceptional piece you have produced.

This test was performed for speed only, we ran the machines at 100IPM with 45 amp shielded consumables. Nothing special, and again this was a speed comparison only.

We will be doing some additional comparison video's in the near future as we captured a lot of good stuff yesterday in our design and demo learning center here in Reno.
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Old 10-29-2015, 09:58 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks to cpreston for the cut file, we used for our ACCUMOVE vs Flashcut speed test.

cpreston really has his machine dialed in. That being said a few of our techs and engineers really want to step up to the challenge of emulating your quality with the same material, but we just can't dedicate the time to playing with the file when we are so busy, so hats off to you sir. When time allows, I know a few of the team are going to revisit this exceptional piece you have produced.

This test was performed for speed only, we ran the machines at 100IPM with 45 amp shielded consumables. Nothing special, and again this was a speed comparison only.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-KL...9RemyThQnAUcZr

We will be doing some additional comparison video's in the near future as we captured a lot of good stuff yesterday in our design and demo learning center here in Reno.
Might plan a trip down and maybe we can set up some time to play in the shop.
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As I think about this. I wonder what the " move between cut " time is. Is it faster than what we have now. With what I do now about 30% of my cut time is cut time. I spend more time moving than cutting. . If it is 1/2 of a second slower than what I have now moving between cuts. Then that will add almost 20 minutes to a sheet.

TH Support. Is it faster or slower moving between cuts?
Rapid or slew moves between cuts execute in less time with Accumove due to a math trick applied to the contouring algorithms, enabling the end effector to reach it's target (next pierce point) in less time without exceeding accel, decel or velocity limits.

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I'd sure like a quote on the accumove system. I've emailed a few times (once just a few days ago) and can't seem to get a price. For a torchmate X
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DLE, send me an email to [email protected] put it to Attn: Dennie and I will see that you get a quote on your X table, apologies for the delay.

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Any chance you guys will do a buy back or credit for old control boxes that are not accumove?
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Any chance you guys will do a buy back or credit for old control boxes that are not accumove?
That would be really nice.
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