Project Pete - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > General Tech > Tow Rigs and Trailers
Notices

Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-01-2012, 10:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
Master of none.
 
skipped_Link's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Member # 37865
Location: Nevada
Posts: 3,569
Project Pete

I've towed a couple pretty good loads in the last few years, nothing that the 2 tow rigs I already have can't handle, so I won't even try to justify a 3rd tow rig, I just want one,

I'm hoping this will not be a long drawn out build, but we'll see how it goes,

What got me looking was a truck sitting local, it is a 1971 Peterbilt 359, 335 cummins & 13 spd, I almost bout this truck a coupel different times,



When I finally decided that a HDT was going to be the next project for myself I started looking around, A craigslist find over by Redding CA caught my eye,
The add said,
1961 Peterbilt, 350 small cam cummins, 10 spd trans, single rear, newer water tank & pump,
So the wife made a day trip of it & went over for a look, & here is where it all really started,






Looking at the truck in person you could see it was well used, the drivers side was a little beat in the upper cab corner, door, & front fender,
The passenger side looked good other than the upper cab corner,

But the engine sounded good, & the truck appeared to be fairley solid,
So I put down some money to hold it while I figured out how to get it home,
A couple weeks later I had the wife take me back with the rest of the money, a bag of sapre parts & a co-driver,
And we drove it 375 miles back to the shop, The trip turned out to be quite the adventure, but we made it in one peice, & the truck was proven,
__________________
Project: Monster Buggy


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Axletech 4000 support parts available, PM me for details
skipped_Link is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-01-2012, 10:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
Master of none.
 
skipped_Link's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Member # 37865
Location: Nevada
Posts: 3,569
The Plan,
Enough room for 2 people comfortably, 3 if needed
Replacing the water tank will be a flat bed that will fit a large wheeling rig,
Rear springs & diff will be replaced with an air rid setup,

This truck is a 281 model, & even though I have seen more than a few of them fixed up really nice that is not really the goal here,
The 359 & 379 look really good slammed & shiny,
But with the 281/351 model, I think they look best, sitting a little taller & having that well used look to them,
Not the "rat rod" look, & not quite as used looking as the Dual truck,
But I have a strong feeling this one is going to get a flat finish paint & not much trucker bling bling.

Anyway, I found out the trans is an Eaton RTF-910, so no overdrive, also the current rear diff is 4.10 gears so 55-60 was top speed on the trip home,
So first thing was finding the air ride setup & taller gears,
I got with a freind who has some truck parts around & told him what I was looking for, & for $600.00 he hooked me up with this,



Rockwell, 3.07:1 gears, & an Airliner suspension,

I washed it up & took it to the sandblaster to get that god awful orange paint knocked off of it.

Next the tank came off, & took it to the scales, 11180 lbs as it sits here




Out came the steam cleaner & washed 2 different colors of paint off,



Had to use paint stripper to get the last layer of paint/primer off,
I also started removing more body parts as I went along,



__________________
Project: Monster Buggy


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Axletech 4000 support parts available, PM me for details
skipped_Link is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Old 07-01-2012, 10:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
Master of none.
 
skipped_Link's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Member # 37865
Location: Nevada
Posts: 3,569
So here it sits, after nearly 4 days of disassembly, stripping, & washing,



The goal for next days off is repair all the cracks I can find in the cab, finish stripping the paint off the hood, & pick up the rear diff/suspension so I can get started on that swap.
__________________
Project: Monster Buggy


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Axletech 4000 support parts available, PM me for details
skipped_Link is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-01-2012, 10:30 AM   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Member # 143307
Location: the Bank of Loans
Posts: 2,237
What'd ya have to give for her if you don't mind me asking?

I love those classic Petes and Kdubs!

Gonna subscribe this one. Has "The Duel" theme going on for now.
__________________
:homer:

Last edited by ToughBowtieTruck; 07-01-2012 at 10:36 AM.
ToughBowtieTruck is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-01-2012, 10:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
Master of none.
 
skipped_Link's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Member # 37865
Location: Nevada
Posts: 3,569
Quote:
Originally Posted by ToughBowtieTruck View Post
What'd ya have to give for her if you don't mind me asking?

I love those classic Petes and Kdubs!

Gonna subscribe this one. Has "The Duel" theme going on.
Yeah the Dual truck is a little rougher than I would want, not that it doesn't look unique/cool, but I don't want to have to pull into every inspection station

I gave $6500 for the truck, there are better deals out there, but I'll get a good chunk of the change back if I can get the tank sold.
__________________
Project: Monster Buggy


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Axletech 4000 support parts available, PM me for details
skipped_Link is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-01-2012, 11:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
bf
Granite Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Member # 131367
Location: UH-UH
Posts: 957
love the needle nose!
__________________
1994 Explorer build. super-duty on tons, currently in surgery.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
bf is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-01-2012, 11:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Member # 143307
Location: the Bank of Loans
Posts: 2,237
Quote:
Originally Posted by skipped_Link View Post
Yeah the Dual truck is a little rougher than I would want, not that it doesn't look unique/cool, but I don't want to have to pull into every inspection station

I gave $6500 for the truck, there are better deals out there, but I'll get a good chunk of the change back if I can get the tank sold.
Not a bad price at all really. Considering how much rig you're getting vs. how much pickup you can get.

Here's a pic of another one my dad took a LONG time ago, creeps me out how similar it was to the Duel rig, only this appears to have a pup.




You could always go with the SLaughter rig theme.

__________________
:homer:
ToughBowtieTruck is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-01-2012, 04:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Member # 132020
Posts: 965
Nice looking needle nose Pete. I'm partial to the small window/wide nose, since I drove one for a lot of miles. The 350 is a good engine and reliable. Put a lot of miles on one of those also.
Have you ever changed oil in an engine with that type 'Luber-Finer'? Gotta open up/crack one of the top plugs with engine running to bleed the air out. But you sound as if you've been around a big rig or two.
spreader is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-01-2012, 06:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Member # 100827
Location: murfreesboro Tn
Posts: 9,900
Send a message via AIM to smewhtguy
Subd this has serious potential.
__________________
I do math and stuff, on a professional level.
smewhtguy is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-01-2012, 06:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Member # 33464
Location: Santa Maria,Ca
Posts: 939
This is looking like it could be a cool build. We always called them a "narrow nose"
66cummins is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-01-2012, 09:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
IDASHO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Member # 83932
Location: North Idaho
Posts: 3,241
Looks like a fun project. Fantastic to find a single rear axle model. And your empty weight numbers are impressive! I figured it would be north of 13k cab and chassis.

Good luck with the build. Looks like you are already well on your way!
IDASHO is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-01-2012, 09:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Member # 208517
Posts: 6
Awesome... Will definitely be following this build
Senck243 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-01-2012, 10:45 PM   #13 (permalink)
perfection in plasma
 
carslut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Member # 25823
Location: Fallbrook Ca
Posts: 3,960
Send a message via ICQ to carslut
cool truck
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
carslut is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-01-2012, 10:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Member # 119827
Location: southern Utah
Posts: 2,085
love them needlenose Petes

i will be watching for sure


i bet you already know what i`m going to suggest ;
needs more rivets ... and polish that aluminum cab
__________________
"Steels gonna be the death of me" ... Gangstergrass
RoosterBooster is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-02-2012, 09:10 AM   #15 (permalink)
Master of none.
 
skipped_Link's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Member # 37865
Location: Nevada
Posts: 3,569
Quote:
Originally Posted by ToughBowtieTruck View Post
You could always go with the SLaughter rig theme.
Is that the truck from Batman?
That thing screams "Please Mr DOT officer, pull me over & start writing tickets"

I like the pic your dad took tho.

Quote:
Originally Posted by spreader View Post
Have you ever changed oil in an engine with that type 'Luber-Finer'? Gotta open up/crack one of the top plugs with engine running to bleed the air out. But you sound as if you've been around a big rig or two.
I've been around a couple at work, but I don't know all the tricks, thanks for the tip,


Quote:
Originally Posted by RoosterBooster View Post
i bet you already know what i`m going to suggest ;
needs more rivets ... and polish that aluminum cab
Flat black on the top of the hood to avoid glare,
I too love the WWII war birds, this truck is not a candidate for polishing tho, it's a little rough, I think there will be pleanty of riveting action going on tho.
__________________
Project: Monster Buggy


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Axletech 4000 support parts available, PM me for details

Last edited by skipped_Link; 07-02-2012 at 09:10 AM.
skipped_Link is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-02-2012, 03:26 PM   #16 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Member # 143307
Location: the Bank of Loans
Posts: 2,237
Quote:
Originally Posted by skipped_Link View Post
Is that the truck from Batman?
That thing screams "Please Mr DOT officer, pull me over & start writing tickets"

I like the pic your dad took tho.
tho.
Yep. But I mean, you know, have all your required lighting and stuff.

The Dark Knight Truck Flip.wmv - YouTube



Yeah I don't know where he took the pic, I only wish he had a closer view of it.
__________________
:homer:

Last edited by ToughBowtieTruck; 07-02-2012 at 03:26 PM.
ToughBowtieTruck is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-02-2012, 08:42 PM   #17 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Member # 119827
Location: southern Utah
Posts: 2,085
Quote:
Originally Posted by skipped_Link View Post

.... Flat black on the top of the hood to avoid glare,
I too love the WWII war birds, this truck is not a candidate for polishing tho, it's a little rough, I think there will be pleanty of riveting action going on tho.

yeah, today i also decided that i`m going with a black cab & fenders ...

black, chrome and polished aluminum are my 3 favored "colors"



btw
if you want to switch to a airride cab i do have a set of Pete aluminum frame brackets laying around (they have the air bag , shock and panhard bar mounts all in one compact light bracket)
i also have a set of Pete aluminum fuel tank hangers left over ....
__________________
"Steels gonna be the death of me" ... Gangstergrass

Last edited by RoosterBooster; 07-02-2012 at 08:46 PM.
RoosterBooster is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-03-2012, 02:51 AM   #18 (permalink)
Registered User
 
supersize75k5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Member # 29341
Location: gilbert az
Posts: 3,742
Quote:
Originally Posted by ToughBowtieTruck View Post



Yeah I don't know where he took the pic, I only wish he had a closer view of it.

Thats the queen creek tunnel in AZ off the 60


Last edited by supersize75k5; 07-03-2012 at 02:52 AM.
supersize75k5 is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-04-2012, 09:55 AM   #19 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Member # 63684
Location: Northern Ca.
Posts: 648
Some good info here. http://www.courtlandtruckworks.com/home.htm FWIW I wheel and camp with Chuck the 1954 Model 280 with the Warrior conversion. Like what your doing. Mark
Skorch is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-04-2012, 12:21 PM   #20 (permalink)
Master of none.
 
skipped_Link's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Member # 37865
Location: Nevada
Posts: 3,569
Quote:
Originally Posted by RoosterBooster View Post

btw
if you want to switch to a airride cab i do have a set of Pete aluminum frame brackets laying around (they have the air bag , shock and panhard bar mounts all in one compact light bracket)
i also have a set of Pete aluminum fuel tank hangers left over ....
No Air ride cab for me, I may be interested in those tank hangers tho, If I can't find another pair locally & shipping isn't terrible I'll hit you up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skorch View Post
Some good info here. http://www.courtlandtruckworks.com/home.htm FWIW I wheel and camp with Chuck the 1954 Model 280 with the Warrior conversion. Like what your doing. Mark
I've scoured courlands site a few times, I've heard their prices are pretty high, but considering they are supplying mostly obsolete parts one probably shouldn't complain, they do nice work & Chucks 54 is beautiful,

I see my rear diff & hangers showed up from the sand blaster, hopefully I can get started on that part of the project this days off.
__________________
Project: Monster Buggy


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Axletech 4000 support parts available, PM me for details

Last edited by skipped_Link; 07-04-2012 at 12:24 PM.
skipped_Link is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-04-2012, 08:06 PM   #21 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Member # 84464
Location: taxachusetts
Posts: 2,805
pretty awesome, subscribed
__________________
God Bless America
mike_belben is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-05-2012, 08:02 AM   #22 (permalink)
Rock God
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Member # 130003
Location: Polk City, Iowa
Posts: 2,444
Curious to know what the asking price is/was on the 71 Pete?
Harold Phipps is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-05-2012, 08:25 AM   #23 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Member # 119827
Location: southern Utah
Posts: 2,085
you really going to bolt a Fruitliner suspension onto a Pete ?!?

just kidding !



too late now but i also have a complete and mostly aluminum Pete "Air Leaf" left over (cheap... need to clear my yard )
__________________
"Steels gonna be the death of me" ... Gangstergrass
RoosterBooster is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-05-2012, 03:47 PM   #24 (permalink)
Rock God
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Member # 130003
Location: Polk City, Iowa
Posts: 2,444
Rooster, better tell the bloke with the F700 about the air leaf, it would beat the hell out of building an experimental deal like he is about to do!
With your suspension, he would have all the right parts in all the right places.
And I just set it up for you on his thread!

Last edited by Harold Phipps; 07-05-2012 at 03:48 PM.
Harold Phipps is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-05-2012, 10:32 PM   #25 (permalink)
Master of none.
 
skipped_Link's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Member # 37865
Location: Nevada
Posts: 3,569
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harold Phipps View Post
Curious to know what the asking price is/was on the 71 Pete?
Rumor has it that truck could be picked up for less than 4k, but I've never talked directly to the guy, I heard the price from his friend, Also got the phone number, but never called to even see if I could get ahold of him,
By the time I decided to pull the trigger on a big truck I had also decided go with the narrow nose, butterfly hood,
If you want the number I'll see if I can dig it up & PM it to you.


Quote:
Originally Posted by RoosterBooster View Post
you really going to bolt a Fruitliner suspension onto a Pete ?!?

just kidding !


Yup,
I had reservations at first, Being new to the HDT build world I'm not sure about all the "rules"
But apperently swapping anything on a Peterbilt that's not Peterbilt, is a fair bit less acceptable than an SBC in a 32 ford coupe,

Price is what made this swap acceptable.

All BS aside, I would have loved to have the Peterbilt air leaf setup, This deal just worked out with having the gearing I needed too.

Maybe I'll have to grinde the "Airliner" casting off the mounts, That's what the Kenworth guys do to make the Pete air leaf work on their trucks,
__________________
Project: Monster Buggy


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Axletech 4000 support parts available, PM me for details

Last edited by skipped_Link; 07-05-2012 at 10:35 PM.
skipped_Link is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

** A VERIFICATION EMAIL IS SENT TO THIS ADDRESS TO COMPLETE REGISTRATION!! **

Email Address:
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)

Log-in


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.