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Old 08-22-2018, 11:20 AM   #676 (permalink)
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Where did you get that channel? I haven't seen anything like that as a regular stock item anywhere.
And you probably wont.

I had the local machine shop make them up for me.

cut and broke out of 3/16 sheet. Cheaper, and lighter than structural C-channel. I wanted a bit shallower channel as well. Flanges are just 1.25" wide.


Cross members are 1/8", done up the same way (cut and broke) but in a Z-metal.
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Old 08-26-2018, 04:25 PM   #677 (permalink)
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Had to get the OBS back into the shop for service, so the SuperDuty got kicked out for a bit.

Gives you a pretty good idea of overhang. Not terrible.
Thinking about a camper on there seems a bit iffy, until you realize the COG for the camper will be right above the rear tires. The cross box and cab-over storage will push some weight forward as well.

Still, the camper only weighs 2200lbs

And Im super pleased about the bed height. Im less than 1 inch taller than the old truck. Sitting right at 43" for bed height.






Worked up some details in the renderings before I order more steel.

Comments on the design? Still have a fare bit of planning to do for the cross-box and cab-over rack.

Bottom of the cross-boxes will be lined up with the bottom of the truck cab.
And the 60"x24" boxes I picked up look like they will work perfect. Just have to grow the balls needed to cut into them with the plasma





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Old 09-05-2018, 06:09 PM   #678 (permalink)
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Well, finally cutting bate at the property, so I should be able to afford some more time for this SuperDuty build.

Here are some final shots for the year for the new place. Only thing left is a few more sheets of OSB on the exterior, then house wrap. Then its good to go, and will survive on its own thru the weather.

My folks still live in CA, and have been living on site in their camper. This drives the schedule, as its already dipping near freezing at night up here.

Anywho... some fun photos.





My wife is 5'4" Tall wall. And check out the size of the deck



Shot looking in.



My Pops and I.



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Old 09-05-2018, 06:15 PM   #679 (permalink)
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Looking good! That's a big ass house.

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It has, what we call in the industry, PRESENCE.... thats for sure
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Old 09-05-2018, 09:01 PM   #681 (permalink)
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A sh-ouse (shop-house), the N Idaho dream home.

OSB for the deck is interesting. What will go over the top of it?
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The 5/8 OSB deck is a temporary work deck. Scaffold rolls on it great, and will be used to finish the exterior.

Finish decking will come after the structure is finished, and will be sanded and stained doug fir
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That is impressive.
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From far away, looks like a good install on that metal roof. No oil canning and a nice straight ridge and eaves, means the frame work was done well too. You can tell it in the metal when they start tweaking it to fit something that's a little out of spec.

Very nice work.
I've been working with metal roofs for too many years, that's about all I notice on buildings now.
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I thought that was a new deluxe size camper you're building. In fact in one picture it is on the back of your Ford.
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Old 09-07-2018, 10:26 PM   #686 (permalink)
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Thanks guys.

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From far away, looks like a good install on that metal roof. No oil canning and a nice straight ridge and eaves, means the frame work was done well too. You can tell it in the metal when they start tweaking it to fit something that's a little out of spec.

Very nice work.
I've been working with metal roofs for too many years, that's about all I notice on buildings now.
Thank you.

All too true. This home being so true, even in such large scale, is an example of what you get when a carpenter does the framing

While nothing is perfect, this home is very straight and true. And your comments about how well the metal lays is proof to that.

I've done my fair share of metal roofs and siding, but full disclosure... the HEIGHT of this one was out of my wheel house. So we hired it out, along with the trusses, continuous columns, and deck framing. The contractor we hired did do a fantastic job. There are a few things that I would have done differently, but it all looks very good.
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I have a hard time remembering things anymore, but what does everyone say when someone posts a tube chassis build?

something like, you need more X bracing??
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More triangulation.
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More triangulation.
I see plenty of shear walls and the floors and roof sheathing create lateral loading diaphragms.

I'm wondering why the plumbing vents weren't roughed in through the roof? Just throw a coffee can over the hole to keep water out.
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Nothing will penetrate the roofing.

The plumbing vent system is designed to vent out the back gable, with risers that clear the roof surface.

All plumbing is located in the south east corner of the building. 3 bathrooms are stacked, and the kitchen is back-to-back with the second level bathroom.

Pellet stove is on the north west corner, but it will also be vented thru-wall.
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Nice place! Good mountain building. No dormers and no penetrations.
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More triangulation.
That was it!!
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I see plenty of shear walls and the floors and roof sheathing create lateral loading diaphragms.
I meant it as a joke of course! that is one sweet looking retirement home!!
I am sure the quality of the build is far beyond what most people would appreciate except the builder.

I always wonder what other geographical areas have to do to handle seismic requirements.

I see a whole lot of OSB sheathing but not a lot of "shear wall"

Typical CA PIA $$$ seismic shear would be
--sheathing blocked and nailed on all 4 sides,typically ran vertical sill to rim or top plate uninterrupted
--shear walls terminating with hold downs of some sort at each end extending from floor to floor all the way to the foundation
--tailback strapping on any and all headers within the designated "shear wall"
--top plate splices would be strapped on top of the OSB
--it goes on and on and on and on, the hardware bill keeps climbing

Just one more plus for Idaho!!

Cary on winter is a coming!!
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Where I am in Whistler BC, we have a moderate seismic risk, but have high snow loads. When that gets engineered, it is still about the same as the high shake risk that Vancouver requires. Hold-downs, connecting straps, solid blocking along all shearwall sheet joints, etc. Current architectural styles have huge open spaces and glazing requiring insane steel and concrete moment frames. Hard build an inexpensive house when all the engineering is factored in.
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No seismic worries here. Nor any structural inspections.
This is beyond any city limits, in Idaho. Only inspections are by the state, and are for utlities only.

That said, this place has more than enough shear.
Hard to see, but dead center, under the loft looking into the place is a large pantry.
Not quite sheeted in the photos, but it is engineered as a shear box, central to the building.
Entire thing will be sheeted with 3/4 OSB. This box is anchored to both floor systems, which in turn anchor the walls.
A couple of the interior walls are shear walls as well.

Its a box within a box. Incredible shear.

Also, roof is rated at 60PSF. More than plenty here.
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Small progress report... With photos coming later.

Been working on the "hidden" stairs.
The bed will have a set of aluminum stairs on a slide that slide in between cross members when stowed,
and simply slide out and fold down when in use.

Also finalized my aux fuel tank selection.
Seems this super duty is getting JEEP parts
Couldnt find a poly fuel cell I liked, and with the only custom option being aluminum,
I sifted through options for nearly a week.
Tough to find a shallow tank, thats for sure.
The winner was a 16gallon poly tank for a 70's CJ.
So the tank will be mounted under the bed, right above the rear axle.
Small skid plate, exhaust might need to be altered, and fuel filler
along with level gauge to be located right inside the drivers gear locker door.
OEM filler will be located there as well.

So I have that on order, and once it is here, along with sorting out the stairs,
I can finalize framing requirements for the bed.

Finally, lets talk about gauges and and air bags.

The truck is fitted with bags, and Im casually considering a set of gauges in the cam with controller.
But Im not sure just how worthwhile that is. Im more a set-it-and-forget-it type.
Thinking more along the lines of schrader valves in the back skirt, and a nothing in cab. Thoughts?

The truck will have OBA, with a tank mounted under bed just above the hitch.
MV50 with a pressure switch and pressure relive valve, and just enough hose to air up after air down,
and serve cleaning duties as needed.
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With 90% of the mockup's done, I tore the entire thing apart again...

Saving weight where I can, the 1/8" cross members were lightened using the plasma cutter. I managed to shed a bit more than 40#

Then the rails were addressed. Threaded inserts (for tie downs) welded in, all holes for clearance lights drilled, and the opening for the slide in stairs cut.

The subframe was also fully welded.

Next up is final assembly of the flatbed frame itself, and welded to the subframe. Then I address the cross boxes and overcab rack.

Also tested out the new camera a bit more in the shop.
Got a filter mount for it, so It was introduced to hark sparks









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Old 09-23-2018, 05:13 PM   #698 (permalink)
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Looking good! Nice pics, I need to upgrade from the phone at some point...

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Yeah, lots of peeps argue how good simple phone pics are.
They are good these days, but the ability to open up the aperture and
narrow the depth of field is paramount with a good camera.
And the little RX100 V is doin it well.

I just hope i can get good enough with it to do it justice.
Its a bad-ass little camera.

A bit more from this afternoon.

Shed another 50+ pounds. Probably closer to 75#
And so far Im still impressed with just how quiet this 6.2 is.
I lopped off the rear most muffler and tail pipe.
The hump pipe over the axle was simply in the way of the aux fuel tank.
So the thing will have a side exit exhaust, in front of the passenger rear tire.



And got back to putting the bed back together.
Most things are burned in good now.
Next up is cross-box work.



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Looks awesome!

And yeah, camera's on phones are good, but real cameras are better....

I am thinking of doing a pass side exist exhaust in front of the tire also, but worried about shooting up everything.

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