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Old 12-01-2019, 02:58 PM   #926 (permalink)
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The quality for many of these chinese brands has certainly improved to the point of impressive.

I rolled the dice a bit doing the Lifan swap on the CT90, and more than 3k miles later Im nothing short of impressed.

Ive run the numbers for an all electric bike, but it simply isnt for us.

Short range
Long recharge times
ridiculous cost
Additional loads for our fairly small solar array
And the goal posts keep moving...

I can hardly see the point of spending big $$ on a bike, only to find one twice as good, for less money just a few years down the road.

Eventually I may go electric, but for now a cheap chinese gas bike might very well do us good.

I like the looks of the Pister Pro bikes, but the added cost is hard to ignore.
They seem to have all the same (small) problems of other chinese bikes.

The TaoTao 140cc bike is less than a thousand bucks.
The cheap cost also makes it a bit more expendable.

We often leave the bike at one trailhead, and the camper at another on backpacking trips.
It reduces the amount of backtracking on a trail, and opens up many, many more ways to plan a trip.

Id hate to leave a spendy bike unattended for a week or more at a trailhead.
So the cheaper the better
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Old 12-01-2019, 06:18 PM   #927 (permalink)
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What about a couple late 90s early 2000s xr100s. Should be $800 or so each and will probably outlast you and your camper
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Ive tried to make some, ANY Honda or Yamaha fit the bill, but they just dont.
An XR100 weighs just as much, or more than the 140CC china bike.

And the XR100 is simply too small. The DBX1 is the larges "pit bike" ive seen.
It fits adults, with a 35" seat height.


My only other consideration right now is a stripped, and I mean stripped down XR200/250

But Im still not getting anywhere near 200# wet.

Something along these lines would be super cool...
Buit by the time I buy the bike, freshen it up and modify it, its more than 2x the cost of the 140CC china bike. And sill probably 50+ lbs heavier

Would be pimp though. I like this look

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Need to be street legal? My kx250f is 212lbs iirc

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I do have the little CL175 for sale currently though, with the option for a part-trade for a lightweight dual sport. XT200/225, XR200/250, etc...

If that happens, I might just have to build a custom, lightweight dual sport.
I only have so much time though, and I have plenty of projects on the back burner already!

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It does, but that's never an issue here in Idaho

Quick google search puts it in at more like 230lbs. Never do see Kawa's on CL up here. Loads and loads of hondas and yamahas though...
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It does, but that's never an issue here in Idaho



Quick google search puts it in at more like 230lbs. Never do see Kawa's on CL up here. Loads and loads of hondas and yamahas though...
Kawi says 204lbs for my year (2007) later efi may have added weight.

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Kawi says 204lbs for my year (2007) later efi may have added weight.

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Yeah, and in my experience so far researching potential bikes, the listed weight is often up for debate. Sometimes its dry weight, sometimes its wet.
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Yeah, and in my experience so far researching potential bikes, the listed weight is often up for debate. Sometimes its dry weight, sometimes its wet.
Oh for sure. And I'm sure it's dry lol

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I am curious what you come up with. I would like to carry a bike as well.


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Im pretty well decided on the chinese Tao Tao DBX1

Just waiting for someone to convince me of a better alternative
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Beautiful pics man, your in some nice areas for sure lol. On the bike thing a buddy of mine had one of the the newer XT225 Yamaha's and loved it, I even rode on it few times @300lb and it was fun little bike.
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Oh for sure. And I'm sure it's dry lol

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We bought a scale and weigh many bikes. Manufacturers weight are always way lighter than actual. I would bet that KX weighs 250 ready to ride.

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Im pretty well decided on the chinese Tao Tao DBX1

Just waiting for someone to convince me of a better alternative
Lightest bike we've weighed is xr200 236. Ready to ride. You can go crazy trying to lighten these. I doubt the Chinese is much lighter, but I could be wrong. I would do the xr though. The heaviest portions are the motor, swing arm and wheels. Motor you can't lighten. you can build a chromo swingarm and get trials wheels and lighten it up.

Oh and we need videos of dancing!
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The wife does all the marketing and such... not sure if she has anything uploaded to YouTube, only FB

Lets see if this works...

https://www.facebook.com/bdeswings/v...8741430985698/
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The wife does all the marketing and such... not sure if she has anything uploaded to YouTube, only FB



Lets see if this works...



https://www.facebook.com/bdeswings/v...8741430985698/
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Thanks

To be fair, we are FAR from the best dancers,
but we are pretty damn good instructors
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To be fair, we are FAR from the best dancers,
but we are pretty damn good instructors
That's awesome. The two of you look great together.

I met my wife dancing almost 25 years ago. Asked her if she knew how, she said, "duh". Well...all girls said that, but this one really could. Turns out she had learned western dancing as a young teen in 4-H and later snuck into bars in HS to dance to live bands. I had the same story. Now we're old and getting gray and have taught our daughters to western swing/jitterbug, 2-step, polka, and waltz.

Oldest daughter sponsored a family dance last weekend and we had 100 kids, 30 parents, and collected 200+ lbs of food for the food bank at the local school.
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thanks man

Im so far behind in updates on this thread its terrible...

Happy 2020!!!



*Had a great (2500+ mile) winter trip with the camper back to CA to visit peeps.

*Done a few camper mods

*Finally had imaging done on my back.... seems Ive been living with a fractured L-3 for a while now.... (more on that later...)

*Found a small china-bike locally, SSR140TR- "big wheel"

and...

*am looking to dive into the AC-Tig world, so Im shopping


Peeps like photos.... so here is a shot of the little bike, as advertised... I tore the thing down into 50+ pieces this afternoon, as it will be going under the knife. Also needed some maintenance....

Its a 140CC thumper with adjustable front and rear suspension, real brakes, 14/17" wheels, and weighs less than 160# I need to toss some goodies at it to make it street legal, and provisions for a rack/bags, but I should still sneak under 200# wet/fueled.

Should work out great!

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Im so far behind in updates on this thread its terrible...



Happy 2020!!!







*Had a great (2500+ mile) winter trip with the camper back to CA to visit peeps.



*Done a few camper mods



*Finally had imaging done on my back.... seems Ive been living with a fractured L-3 for a while now.... (more on that later...)



*Found a small china-bike locally, SSR140TR- "big wheel"



and...



*am looking to dive into the AC-Tig world, so Im shopping





Peeps like photos.... so here is a shot of the little bike, as advertised... I tore the thing down into 50+ pieces this afternoon, as it will be going under the knife. Also needed some maintenance....



Its a 140CC thumper with adjustable front and rear suspension, real brakes, 14/17" wheels, and weighs less than 160# I need to toss some goodies at it to make it street legal, and provisions for a rack/bags, but I should still sneak under 200# wet/fueled.



Should work out great!





Nice bike..... bummer about the back.

Can you make the bike seat 2 in a pinch? Looks tiny but capable.


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Fitting 2-up for short distances is part of the plan.
It will take some work, but its on the list of mods for it.

If the little 125cc swapped CT90 can handle 2-up, this thing sure the hell can.

Its considerably more bike. Looking forward to it, it is a very fun little bike
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Fitting 2-up for short distances is part of the plan.

It will take some work, but its on the list of mods for it.



If the little 125cc swapped CT90 can handle 2-up, this thing sure the hell can.



Its considerably more bike. Looking forward to it, it is a very fun little bike


Nice, I will need something like that as well. Wanting a light bike (can be bigger than what you have, bigger truck), with saddle boxes and an extended seat for two (for short trips).

I am enjoying your builds..... always appreciate the pictures and write ups.


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MRI results are in...

Lumbar Stenosis, Acquired and Congenital.
As well as disc problems, L2-3 & L4-5

Regular doc didnt even bother to call me back, just sent out a referral.
So I have my first consultation with a neurosurgeon this week.

Been fighting this stuff for years though, so I knew something would finally come to pass.
Not terribly sure I want to go for surgery right away. But will hold any kind of thoughts, good or bad best I can until the wife and I talk to the doc.



That said, basement remodel efforts continue.
Broken back and all....

I have managed to get all the floor framing in.

"pads" are 1/2" baltic birch ply, wet set with PL Premium, with every other being fastened to the concrete slab with ramset nails & 22 gauge gun.

They two courses of 1x2 VG fir, glued & brad nailed.

So if you look close, there is no direct path between the top surface and the concrete slab, except for the perimeter.
The field is "sprung", flexing happening between each of the birch ply pads.
Perimeter is "hard" fastened to avoid any kind of floor-baseboard molding movement/noise.

Laying the two-layer of 3/8 baltic birch (to serve as subfloor) is up next.

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What's the grid size? Looks like about 12" square?

looks neat. With a mat, could it double for gymnastics/tumbling/MMA training?
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Yep, 12" centers

Not sure if it has enough give for that.... but what do I know...
I have no idea what a floor for that requires. Perhaps??

The idea is to have give, but not be noticeable.
Once sheeted it will feel like a traditional framed floor, but with imperceptible "give". I assume it will have a "break in" period as well, as the materials normalize with the temp/humidity of the room, and traffic.

I currently have it sheeted with the first layer of baltic birch, and movement is noticeable, but I believe it is the 3/8 ply on 12" centers that I'm feeling....
Glue isnt set either.
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