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Old 03-31-2016, 12:55 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Old 04-10-2016, 05:59 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Took a 300 mile, round trip, drive on Saturday.

I have the power folding side tow mirrors, which I love.........but they are huge

I folded them in whenever possible.....shocking, my MPGs went up over 1.70
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Took a 300 mile, round trip, drive on Saturday.

I have the power folding side tow mirrors, which I love.........but they are huge

I folded them in whenever possible.....shocking, my MPGs went up over 1.70
Well they don't call them elephant ears for nothing.

I've been meaning to step my '14 up to power fold tows, just haven't had a reason too besides I want too, LOL!!

Have you installed a tune yet? I just did the 5star 91 tow/perf tune and running 93 octane and talk about a different truck for towing and DD'ing.
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Old 04-11-2016, 09:50 AM   #104 (permalink)
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No tune yet

I really don't want to pay for higher octane and typically get much less MPGs..........especially since I think the Eco is already a gas hog

Was your mileage affected at all after the tune?
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........especially since I think the Eco is already a gas hog
Had the same observation... After all the hype, the numbers don't lie. I was averaging just over 11mpg in overall mixed use driving with 275 BFG A/T's, otherwise completely stock. I then tried a Diablo tuner in the "economy" mode, and gained about 0.25mpg across the board And I have to admit, I drove it like a grandma trying to eek out all the economy I could, I mean hell it wasn't doing any better than the 2008 F-250 V10 that I replaced?! I guess it needs more Cummins
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Well, normal driving I am averaging 17.5 according to lie-o-meter and roughly 600-650 miles to a tank. Towing I am seeing roughly 12-13.5. I heard good things even about 5stars 87 tow/perf tune, so you wouldn't need to worry about paying for premium gas. The biggest thing is keeping your foot out of it, you don't have to drive like grandma, but full throttle starts will pretty much roast the tires now.

What I really notice is the shifting strategy vs stock.........so much smoother and doesn't have the 1-2 hard shift that it had before the tune.
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I consistently get 14.5-15.5mpg with my 2015, mixed driving.
I can touch 17.5mpg on the highway if I keep it at 70 or below. Stock tires.
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I consistently get 14.5-15.5mpg with my 2015, mixed driving.
I can touch 17.5mpg on the highway if I keep it at 70 or below. Stock tires.
I can do 19.5-21 mpg on the highway if I keep it at 65 or below. Once I break 70......it 17.5-18 no matter the headwind.
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I consistently get 14.5-15.5mpg with my 2015, mixed driving.
I can touch 17.5mpg on the highway if I keep it at 70 or below. Stock tires.
Same here, about 15 around town depending on how i drive, and around 17 with the cruise set at 70.

Got 10.3 hand calculated towing the jeep on Saturday at 60-65 the whole way.. I blame that on the low gears though, could use a set of 3.55 or 3.73.
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Well, normal driving I am averaging 17.5 according to lie-o-meter and roughly 600-650 miles to a tank. Towing I am seeing roughly 12-13.5. I heard good things even about 5stars 87 tow/perf tune, so you wouldn't need to worry about paying for premium gas. The biggest thing is keeping your foot out of it, you don't have to drive like grandma, but full throttle starts will pretty much roast the tires now.

What I really notice is the shifting strategy vs stock.........so much smoother and doesn't have the 1-2 hard shift that it had before the tune.
What he said.

I use to get 20-21mpg on the stock Pirelli Scorpion tires. Once I did a level and 285/55r20 BFG's, it dropped to 15.3-15.5 consistently.

I now run an SCT Livewire TS+ tuner with 5* tunes. 87 economy normal driving didn't change MPG at all. I did remove Speed Limiter and re-calibrated for the taller tire. Shifting is MUCH better than before. That was my biggest gripe with this truck when I first bought it. 89 performance/tow when I'm towing the Jeep. The shifting under loads is MUCH better and more firm. Runs great now.
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Whats the deal with the trans recall, 2011 and 2012 Ecoboost trucks?

Improper downshifting?
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Whats the deal with the trans recall, 2011 and 2012 Ecoboost trucks?

Improper downshifting?
Haven't received that yet. Can you provide some details? Mine has been in a twice for erratic shifting. I believe it's between 2nd and 3rd gears in stop and go traffic.
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Ford recalls F150, Mustang, SUVs for automatic transmission problems - Torque News

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has announced a new recall of select Ford F150, Ford Mustang, Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator vehicles over a concern that the automatic transmission may not go into reverse or when in reverse, the backup lights will not come on – posing a threat to other motorists and pedestrians alike.

This new Ford automatic transmission recall pertains specifically to 2011-2012 Ford F150 pickups, 2012-2013 Ford Mustang coupes and convertibles and the 2012 Ford Expedition and 2012 Lincoln Navigator full size sport utes that share a common platform and drivetrain – all of which are obviously fitted with Ford’s 6-speed automatic transmission. In total, this new recall affects around 10,500 vehicles. The NHTSA bulletin doesn’t go into detail on specific build dates for the vehicles or automatic transmissions but considering the incredible number of Ford F150 pickups produced and sold in 2011 and 2012 (Ford sold almost 2,000 F Series trucks PER DAY in April 2012)…it is very obvious that only a small group of vehicles are included in this recall.

In the Ford F150, Mustang, Expedition and Lincoln Navigator models affected by this new recall, the transmission range sensor (TRS) may be calibrated out of specification for the reverse gear. Because of this possible incorrect calibration, the vehicle may not shift into reverse when prompted by the driver and in some cases; the vehicle could go into reverse but the backup indicator lights will not illuminate. This puts the various trucks, sport utility vehicles and Mustangs in violation of multiple Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards including No. 102 “Transmission shift level sequence, starter interlock and transmission braking effect” and No. 108 “Lamps reflective devices and associated equipment”. The symptoms of this new Ford F150 and Ford Mustang automatic transmission recall can create an obvious headache for drivers who find themselves suddenly unable to shift into reverse but the second portion of the recall warning can pose a significant threat to other drivers and pedestrians around the affected vehicles. When the Mustang, F150, Expedition or Navigator shift into reverse and the backup lights do not light up – other drivers in the vicinity and those walking around the vehicle may not be aware that it is in the process of backing up. Situations like backing out of a space in a crowded parking lot or trying to parallel park along the side of a busy city street without the backup lights indicating that the vehicle was backing up can clearly become an issue for everyone around.

On top of that, since these 10,500 vehicles do not conform to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards, that is all that the NHTSA and automakers doing business in American need to issue a recall like this. This new Ford F150, Mustang, Expedition and Lincoln Navigator recall is set to officially begin on June 25th 2012 at which point owners will be asked to return to their local Ford Motor Company dealership for repairs. Once there, a technician will inspect the transmission range sensor and replace it as needed. This work will be done free of charge to the owner. If you own a 2011-2012 Ford F150 pickup, a 2012-2013 Ford Mustang coupe or convertible, a 2012 Ford Expedition or a 2012 Lincoln Navigator and you are concerned about your vehicle possibly being affected by this recall; you can check to see if your backup lights are working by having someone stand to the rear-side of the vehicle and shifting into reverse. If the vehicle shifts into reverse and the backup lights illuminate – your vehicle is functioning properly for now. This doesn’t mean that you will not get a recall notice but in the event that you do; it is always a good idea to make the trip to the dealership for the free service.
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When the Mustang, F150, Expedition or Navigator shift into reverse and the backup lights do not light up other drivers in the vicinity and those walking around the vehicle may not be aware that it is in the process of backing up. Situations like backing out of a space in a crowded parking lot or trying to parallel park along the side of a busy city street without the backup lights indicating that the vehicle was backing up can clearly become an issue for everyone around.
People don't pay attention to reverse lights anyway, I look and then ignore reverse lights on an GM vehicle since they use the reverse lights as courtesy lights.
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Here's my ecoboost experience. I've had this truck for a little over a year. I love it, incredible power, great towing, good ride, and I gave up on good gas mileage a long time ago. I will say they are high on maintenance but at least they're easy to work on. I went from a 2002 F350 to this and don't miss the diesel at all. Maintenance was WAY worse on that pig. Some specs on the truck: 2011 Platinum with ~90K (bought with 75K), leveled on 17" Methods and 315/70R17 BFG ATs, SCT Livewire tuner, RX catch can, S&B intake, and SOLO (offroad) downpipes. In the mail as we speak: Riesche 170 deg thermostat and an AFE rear diff cover (just because I read this thread) Started running Amsoil and am about to change all fluids (Tranny, T case, rear diff) next week.

When I first got the truck I put the tuner on. Apparently this was just enough for some issues to show themselves. I was driving to work one morning and punched it on the highway. The truck started missing and running rough. I pulled the code, did some research, and found out about the faulty factory plugs (see below). The hot tune was just enough that the spark plug, with enough load, would start arcing out the side into the block, path of least resistance. Once it did this, it couldn't fix itself until I would pull over and restart the truck. Then the spark plugs would return to normal operation and I could limp the truck around as long as I didn't get it too excited. Changed the plugs and haven't had an issue since. But it is a known fact that these trucks EAT spark plugs, especially with a tune. I'd say on a normal truck they should be changed every 50-60K and tuned probably more like 20-30K
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I will say that even with the coil on plug design, swapping in new plugs is very painless and cheap......even with iridium's
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leveled on 17" Methods and 315/70R17 BFG AT
I want some 315s badly

What backspacing are your methods?

Pics?
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Anybody else notice the amount of smoke these things throw out the exhaust when you romp on them? Was following my brother (2014 with 20k on it) and anytime he got on the throttle after cruising for a while it would puff out more smoke than my diesel on a hot tune. He says it's been that way since new.
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Mine burns very clean......no smoke at all
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I want some 315s badly

What backspacing are your methods?

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Here is the best pic I currently have with the BFGs. I can't remember the backspacing off the top of my head but I'm pulling the wheels off within the next week and I'll let you know. They stick out just far enough IMO. With the level only, they rub just barely, even with minor trimming near the firewall on the front fender. Any wider and the scrub would just make them rub worse. I like being able to tuck 35s.

The second 2 pics show the offset but are with my old 285 Nittos. The truck originally came with 305s mounted on the factory Platinum 20s but I was chasing mpg's and thought the tires were part of the answer. After that didn't work, I said fukkit and threw everything out the window (the 285s were too small and looked funny anyway. I want big tires and I want to go fast so might as well do it right.
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Mine burns very clean......no smoke at all
Same here. Clean and clear.
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Time for the second oil change

This time, I went with Pennzoil full synthetic

A 5 quart jug and some new Purolator Boss oil filter, on sale package at Advanced Auto for only $29.99

Picked up another quart for $2.35
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Here is the best pic I currently have with the BFGs. I can't remember the backspacing off the top of my head but I'm pulling the wheels off within the next week and I'll let you know. They stick out just far enough IMO. With the level only, they rub just barely, even with minor trimming near the firewall on the front fender. Any wider and the scrub would just make them rub worse. I like being able to tuck 35s.

The second 2 pics show the offset but are with my old 285 Nittos. The truck originally came with 305s mounted on the factory Platinum 20s but I was chasing mpg's and thought the tires were part of the answer. After that didn't work, I said fukkit and threw everything out the window (the 285s were too small and looked funny anyway. I want big tires and I want to go fast so might as well do it right.
I'm digging that bumper. Looks sweet.
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I can't believe the EPA let that happen, are people just tuning the shit out of them?
Lol welcome to direct injection. One of the biggest problems of direct injection is also it's strongest benifit. It doesn't do homogeneous mixtures well but you can control when/where the fuel is in the combustion chamber. You want to run a leaner than stoichiometric burn without diesel like precombustion chambers (think old Honda vx civic) and the accompanying NOx hit you get a pocket of 14.7 stoichiometric fuel/air next to the sparkplug. NOx happens during lean burn and is why diesels have urea injection. Unless your VW apparently.

So Ford went leanburn to meet fuel economy requirements but to avoid urea injection went direct injection at the exspense of particulate emissions. Eventually the EPA will lower permitted NOx levels and realize that particulate matter emissions matter to more than just diesel engines then poof! Your gasoline fueled Ford ecoboost will have urea injection and particulate filters just like diesels.
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