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FC4X4 05-24-2017 12:49 PM

:smokin:

rockota 05-24-2017 06:04 PM

I loved the stickers. :(

Java 05-24-2017 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rockota (Post 40850097)
I loved the stickers. :(

Just the sponsor names came off.... The rest is still there. It was kinda weird having someone else's sponsors and name on it.

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SSSRodeo 05-24-2017 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Java (Post 40850857)
Just the sponsor names came off.... The rest is still there. It was kinda weird having someone else's sponsors and name on it.

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I agree! I they aren't paying for the advertising to be there, then they belong in the trash. No free rides!

Java 05-24-2017 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SSSRodeo (Post 40851009)
I agree! I they aren't paying for the advertising to be there, then they belong in the trash. No free rides!

Ha yep! If they wanted to pay that would have been fine! Lol

One was also the PO's name/company which was kinda weird to keep.

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Java 05-25-2017 10:51 AM

More last night...

Water tank is in, strapped in place, and hopefully stays there. Glad I didn't get a bigger tank, no way I would have gotten the fittings on the end.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4228/3...ae83bf32_b.jpg

Water outlet, drain valve on the right will need to go down though the floor.
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And in place, it fit exactly tight against the wall.
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Water heater mounted, the blue can will be the grey tank.
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I did get the water ran to the other dinette bench and to the valve before the water pump. But that was it. Man its tight and takes forever! All the rest of my pics are blurry....

350TacoZilla 05-28-2017 01:49 AM

Looks great man, I have thought about doing the box truck to rv conversion a ton of times but with lower end budget.

On tires your kinda in a tough spot since really you shouldnt install over a 245 on those wheels but I have seen a ton of 265's on the fords. I had 245/70r19.5 drives all way around on my 550 and they seemed to ride better at same psi than the 225's did but not much. If you were open to going to a much bigger tire like earthroamer style the military 335/80r20's are starting to pop up avail but they are something like 41 tall. Only other options I can think of are the 36x19.5 iroks or the founders that they use on brush trucks.

https://firematic.com/founders_mt.htm

I had seen where buckstop now has a similar setup also but again 41" tire not 35-37.
Buckstop Single Wheel Conversion Kit

Trust me you not going to like the price on those, other option would be go to a 22.5 conversion and run a drive tire all around with a ton of different sizes avail that route. But ride certainly isnt going to improve unless you move up to floats or something.

Java 05-28-2017 09:06 AM

Thanks for the reply! I'm pretty damn happy with how it's coming out.

I think going to a super single is the only route to go to get reasonable size and better ride.

Nitto has a 37x13.5 mtr style tread that's rated for 4100 ish pounds. That plus a set of first attack wheels is my end goal I think. It's a huge budget hit though, and I'll probably wear these tires out first as they are nearly new.

I need to get weighted to see what I'm at and figure out what I need for tires on the rear end.

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350TacoZilla 05-28-2017 10:21 PM

Yeah I think any of the fabbed 20" wheels would work might just come down to price on them for ya if you shop around.I think stockton wheel will make 20's for you in any pattern also though not sure what they run $ wise. Other option would be the MRAP steel or alloy wheels with an adapter to go to your lug pattern, I think they are 20x11 or so. Heck even the old 5 ton/fmtv rims might work with an adapter.

First Attack- $400 ea
Fire Matic- $595 ea
Stazworks- $460 ea or add $80 for dually it says, they will also recenter a military wheel by look of their price chart.

I would be curious about your loaded weight on rear axle for sure since you would be going down to 2 tires rated at 4100 (unless you were going to try for duals with the 20's) I would bet though even if the nitto's are ok weight wise they would wear out pretty quick on that thing.

Java 05-28-2017 10:26 PM

I'm passing a weigh station tomorrow I think! Plan to stop.

Yeah I think axle weights would be very telling.

I Wish the MRAP wheels bolted up, but Ford didn't use Budd spacing sadly.

The first attack get good reviews and are priced right....

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350TacoZilla 05-28-2017 10:35 PM

The MRAP's are hub centric with a huge 11"ish bolt circle. Fmtv/5-ton combats are budd style lug centrics in the 10 lug semi pattern.

IMG_3214.jpeg Photo by healeyjet | Photobucket

Those are mraps with a adapter to go to dodge 10 lug already bolted on in pic for a idea of what you would be looking at.

Java 05-29-2017 01:56 PM

Those are custom Hutchinson's not standard MRAP stuff.

Ward's truck is bad ass! We met up when he was in town, it's really nice.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c4f1b7d367.jpg

Got weighed on the way home! Loaded, two dogs, three people, half a tank of water. 14.3k

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d0e9523f2c.jpg

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ben2go 05-29-2017 05:54 PM

I was thinking about 11,000lbs. Where's the gold load you're hiding in that truck?

Java 05-29-2017 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ben2go (Post 40891569)
I was thinking about 11,000lbs. Where's the gold load you're hiding in that truck?

Ha I wish, stock truck was 8500 ish!

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350TacoZilla 05-29-2017 08:57 PM

Ah cool that you know him lol, I'm not trying to say anything about the guy he got the wheels from but are you sure they are custom other than just the adapter? I have had 3 different sets of the military wheels in my hands before and I swear those look like the standard MRAP with an adapter plate bolted in. I think the stock MRAPs are made by Hutchinson, there are 2 or 3 different style of them though all from mrap including some steel and some aluminum ones.

If his set is custom I would hate to think of cost each, I can get the stock aluminum mraps for like $90 each and the steel for $50 each. I would imagine a set of custom adapters would run few hundred but might still be way ahead cost wise than getting any of the custom wheels, especially since you could then just pick up a spare stock mrap wheel to keep in garage incase you ever need it.

Anywho either way on wheels I would say that your axle weight nix's the idea of single nittos in back since the 4100 load rating would basically be maxed all the time.

Java 05-29-2017 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 350TacoZilla (Post 40893873)
Ah cool that you know him lol, I'm not trying to say anything about the guy he got the wheels from but are you sure they are custom other than just the adapter? I have had 3 different sets of the military wheels in my hands before and I swear those look like the standard MRAP with an adapter plate bolted in. I think the stock MRAPs are made by Hutchinson, there are 2 or 3 different style of them though all from mrap including some steel and some aluminum ones.

Anywho I would say that you axle weight nix's the idea of single nittos in back since the 4100 load rating would basically be maxed all the time.

Yep I agree on the axle weight, I Need to get military type tires or keep the duals.

Yeah I am petty sure those are custom, mayeb just centers tho. Ford used a random spacing.... 225x10 iirc

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350TacoZilla 05-29-2017 09:33 PM

Yeah I think thats what pattern his dodge should be too, my old 550 was the 8x225 before they made the jump to 10 lug.

If you go military tires his set might be about the shortest ones avail right now at 40-41 tall. Up front you could either go bushwacker cut out flares and coil spacer lift or get a set of the flared desert truck style fenders, not sure how much clearance you have in back but you might get off easy back there with just small solid block and the air bags.

Java 05-29-2017 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 350TacoZilla (Post 40894121)
Yeah I think thats what pattern his dodge should be too, my old 550 was the 8x225 before they made the jump to 10 lug.

If you go military tires his set might be about the shortest ones avail right now at 40-41 tall. Up front you could either go bushwacker cut out flares and coil spacer lift or get a set of the flared desert truck style fenders, not sure how much clearance you have in back but you might get off easy back there with just small solid block and the air bags.

Yep that'd about as small as they come. ~40", mine is a 10x 225mm.

We will see where I end up!

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gtxracer 05-29-2017 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Java (Post 40890465)
Those are custom Hutchinson's not standard MRAP stuff.

Ward's truck is bad ass! We met up when he was in town, it's really nice. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c4f1b7d367.jpg
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Build thread on the other rig?

I think yours on bigger axles and mil-spec 38s would be about the same look. Nitro Gear and Axle did a similar build. MRAP axles seem overkill for sure, I'd probably look at the Super60 stuff. I don't remember what yours had from the start, but a S110 rear would go nicely with that. Hard to find these types of rigs!

Java 05-30-2017 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gtxracer (Post 40894961)
Build thread on the other rig?

I think yours on bigger axles and mil-spec 38s would be about the same look. Nitro Gear and Axle did a similar build. MRAP axles seem overkill for sure, I'd probably look at the Super60 stuff. I don't remember what yours had from the start, but a S110 rear would go nicely with that. Hard to find these types of rigs!

While MRAP or rockwells sounds fun, I dont see it happening any time soon. Its just so nice and drive able right now. Its also already about 12' tall. I dont need any more height!

Wheels and tires are much more of a possibility.

Its a Super 60 and S110 full float rear now.

Build thread for the silver truck :D Dodge Ram 5500 motorhome - Expedition Portal

The Nitro rig is fucking awesome, hes local ish to me as well. Really nice truck. Its even heavier than mine though, IIRC he said he was over 10k on the rear axle. He's running custom springs, a lift block and the bushwacker cutouts in the front.

Java 05-30-2017 09:51 AM

Here is a recap on the thrash that was Friday. Whoever decided I needed to get the water done before we left was a little nuts.... Needless to say, the three hours I had planned for it wasn't enough. Oh well, I dragged my *** out of bed at 6:30 and got to work.

I had to connect the tank to the water heater, both of which were installed at this point, then do all the tank fill side of things, install the water pump, wire all that stuff, and do the grey tank. (yeah typing all that out reminds me three hours were not nearly enough, planned to work 7-10, cleanup and pack and leave at 12)

So to start we have to install the faucet. Kids oil based clay works great for making a dam.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4219/3...a16c562f_b.jpg

Now you hope and prey you don't break the tile.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4273/3...955fa54c_b.jpg

Breathe again....
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And drop the faucet in. One thing checked off the list.
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Run water lines.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4223/3...471690f2_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4245/3...28fd269a_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4249/3...1269e494_b.jpg

Hook up water pump, used flex here to try to keep noise and vibrations in the lines down.... Pump is god damn loud. Its a used one I have had in my garage for years now.
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Install fill and vent.
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Add water. Chase leaks. I hate threaded fittings!!!! PEX is awesome though.

Hot water coming out!
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4270/3...214c183f_b.jpg

Apparently I took zero pics of the grey tank. Its the blue jug, its a hose barb fitting off the end of the strainer basket, a piece of 1" vinyl tube. Works really well actually.



Truck drove great all weekend, towed the boat at 70 no problem.

ben2go 05-30-2017 10:01 AM

Mount the pump on rubber. It'll help quite it down inside the cabin.

Java 05-30-2017 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ben2go (Post 40898185)
Mount the pump on rubber. It'll help quite it down inside the cabin.

I will have to. It had rubber feet, but its also screwed to a steel floor.... A big ass piece of rubber or neoprene should help :D

ennored 05-30-2017 10:08 AM

Noise
 
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Originally Posted by ben2go (Post 40898185)
Mount the pump on rubber. It'll help quite it down inside the cabin.

And add more soft hose on the output side, like 3'. Looks like a 360 loop would fit nicely.

Java 05-30-2017 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ennored (Post 40898313)
And add more soft hose on the output side, like 3'. Looks like a 360 loop would fit nicely.

Think that will really make a difference? It didn't seem to be hammering the pipes if that makes sense. But yeah I should have room to do a loop there.


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