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FirstRam 09-19-2019 03:27 PM

The bigger the better! 3/8's is about all you can do without welding but you can still run much larger hose and tank fittings. If you get like the results, you're only a fitting away from having a free flowing setup. If you feel it isn't worth the additional effort you will be able to sell the unmolested bags.

Java 09-19-2019 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstRam (Post 44610220)
The bigger the better! 3/8's is about all you can do without welding but you can still run much larger hose and tank fittings. If you get like the results, you're only a fitting away from having a free flowing setup. If you feel it isn't worth the additional effort you will be able to sell the unmolested bags.

Do you think 3/8 will flow enough to be noticeable I guess is my question. It will still have a 1/4" restriction at the bag connection. I just got 1/4x3/8 T's to make plumbing easy for the time being....

FirstRam 09-19-2019 04:30 PM

The 1/4" restriction is only a pipe nipple long. Depending on the hose length, 3/8 will help but bigger is better. Just zip tie the tanks to your front bumper for a quick test.

The sad thing is that the shows I work on pay for everything and that gives us the opportunity to test on their dime. It really brings me down to earth when I need to place a McMaster order when I'm between jobs.

Java 09-19-2019 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstRam (Post 44610296)
The 1/4" restriction is only a pipe nipple long. Depending on the hose length, 3/8 will help but bigger is better. Just zip tie the tanks to your front bumper for a quick test.

The sad thing is that the shows I work on pay for everything and that gives us the opportunity to test on their dime. It really brings me down to earth when I need to place a McMaster order when I'm between jobs.

Thanks, the tanks had a 3/8 port so I just went with 3/8 line....

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Java 09-21-2019 01:48 PM

Gonna put this one down as a win (so far!) a couple hundred miles and a couple passes and it's leak free! Going hose down the Underside with degreaser, I really hope this was the oil leak all along! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...98355afe46.jpg

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Java 09-23-2019 02:20 PM

Played with air pressures this weekend.

Tires at 58.

Air bags at 70 which is just under 8" tall, its a bit better, BUT it does bottom out at this pressure.

At 60 its not any different feeling than 70 really. at 80 its harsher.

The Kelderman guys think I am feeling the rear end.... Maybe my expectations are just too much for this heavy of a truck?

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65Chevy4x4 09-23-2019 07:39 PM

Back to what I was talking about. The antifreeze would ramp up pressure quicker to help with bottoming out.

Java 09-24-2019 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 65Chevy4x4 (Post 44614994)
Back to what I was talking about. The antifreeze would ramp up pressure quicker to help with bottoming out.

But also make it harsher no? I may try it down the line. I just dont want to think about trying to get it back out if needed.

MarkObtinaro 09-24-2019 10:39 AM

In a recent article in Bus Ride Maintenance (a bus industry magazine) there is a very good article about LiquidSpring. The claims of Liquid Spring are that their proprietary suspension system reduces road vibration 45% and body rock by 50%.

I know nothing about LiquidSpring except for what I read in the article. But it would appear as if LiquidSpring is using liquid instead of air to run the suspension system. The liquid is better able to absorb shock and dampen the results of shocks so that you end up with a much smoother ride.

In other words it is a high tech vesion of what others are suggesting you do to smooth out your ride.

https://busride.com/official-busride...-field-test-5/

https://liquidspring.com/

christyle 09-24-2019 01:07 PM

I dont quite understand how a liquid is better at compressing at all, or absorbing that, but i didnt look at anything you posted.

ennored 09-24-2019 02:28 PM

Think hydropneumatic. Still uses air as a compressible media.

https://www.metro-magazine.com/techn...sion-evolution

FirstRam 09-24-2019 02:49 PM

Very interesting.

GLTHFJ60 09-25-2019 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 65Chevy4x4 (Post 44614994)
Back to what I was talking about. The antifreeze would ramp up pressure quicker to help with bottoming out.

And would make the ride harsher.

65Chevy4x4 09-25-2019 11:23 AM

Here is how I see it. The higher pressure without antifreeze makes it harsh ALWAYS.

The lower pressure rides good but bottoms out too easily.

SO running some antifreeze will allow a lower pressure at ride height giving you the good ride. BUT will progressively add spring rate as it compresses keeping the suspension from bottoming out when using lower pressure at ride height. I have done this same concept in air shocks and even air bumps. Run more oil, Lower pressure gives a great ride at ride height BUT it still prevents bottoming out like the higher pressure at ride height does but without the harsh ride always.

Think of it like a progressive coil spring. Softer rate at ride height due to lower pressure But stiff spring rate at compression which helps bottoming out.

Java 09-30-2019 03:08 PM

Front still sucks. Haven't had time for ping tanks yet.

But we got the first snow of the season! (which apparently does not show up in night pics :D )
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Nearly no one around, nice morning hike.
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Remember the random stereo static I get? Welllll the electrical gremlins are coming out..... My turn signal indicator on the dash dimly lights up (not flashing) randomly....
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87manche 09-30-2019 03:50 PM

that seems like a dash ground or something that sucks, and it's now grounding through the light bulb.

Java 09-30-2019 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 87manche (Post 44623592)
that seems like a dash ground or something that sucks, and it's now grounding through the light bulb.

Yeah who knows.... It didn't stay on, and now that I think about it only did it for a min when first started.

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65Chevy4x4 09-30-2019 06:20 PM

Had strange issue like that on my tacoma. Push on brake pedal and the turn signal would turn on left side one. Checked everything. Went under dash and found a wire that the brake pedal would touch when compressed and a bare spot on the wire. I'm guessing the pedal was making the ground complete which the switch would normally do. So I suggest a ground issue as well.

Java 10-07-2019 09:18 AM

Another fun weekend!

Some hiking, some climbing.
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Old counterweight house for a removed chairlift. Wont be standing much longer.
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Sign was tucked in the bushes, chair was last in service in 1994 it appears.
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Maxxfan started making all kinds of floppy noises on the freeway..... Ugh.
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And a quick little project. Uhhhh yeah my truck does not have reverse sensors any more. Goodbye button.
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Perfect little hole....
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A little file action and wala. It fits a standard 1 1/8" gauge. Temp gauge coming soon! I have wanted an outdoor temp forever.... Handy for knowing ice etc in the winter. This is a little Blue Sea Gauge, ill probably throw the prob in the door jamb. Need to get it wired up now. Hoping I can steal power from that switch I pulled out. That is TBD...
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Java 10-16-2019 12:20 PM

Been wanting an outdoor temp gauge for awhile. Ford had one in the rear view in some pickup models, but it appeared from my google research that it was not a standard part included in the wire harness/build in the 450's. I also dont have a rear view any longer.

Finally got the Blue Sea one wired up last night and its a nice little unit! Oled screen and daylight readable. The docs says it has a "snowflake" that appears under freezing too.

Tied to the light leads for the old switch. This way it turns on any time running or headlights are on (I always have running on....).
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Sensor is in the drivers door jamb, should get good reading, be protected form wind and not get much engine heat there.

JNHEscher 10-21-2019 02:52 AM

I'll need to head to page 1 to catch on up this project. Your camper looks badass, man. Read to through the last three pages. I'll look through some more and maybe chime in on the air bag troubles. Looks like all the guys commenting on your thread are the same guys commenting on my bus build thread lol. Saw a pic of carabiners. You rock climb? I never got as far as climbing outside, but used to head to a local climbing gym every week.

Java 10-21-2019 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JNHEscher (Post 44652436)
I'll need to head to page 1 to catch on up this project. Your camper looks badass, man. Read to through the last three pages. I'll look through some more and maybe chime in on the air bag troubles. Looks like all the guys commenting on your thread are the same guys commenting on my bus build thread lol. Saw a pic of carabiners. You rock climb? I never got as far as climbing outside, but used to head to a local climbing gym every week.

Thanks for looking! I am enjoying your bus build!

Yep we have climbed pretty much all summer. Starting to transition to winter sports now. I love climbing though, took 10 years off when we had the kid, and its great to be back. There is something about the way you have to simply focus on the climb at hand and nothing else.

Fantastic weekend playing in the snow.

Headed up, just starting to snow
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Getting better
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Parked! Right at the top of the ridge.
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It started dumping!
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Pretty spot.
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A couple wheelers went by in the morning
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Forecast was calling for up to another 12", we decided to bail out to a bit lower elevation. Glad we did, got another few inches, and it was about half the snow where we stopped as up above.

My temp sensor location failed..... Reads way warm!

GLTHFJ60 10-22-2019 09:02 AM

I love the places you take this thing.

Java 10-22-2019 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GLTHFJ60 (Post 44654010)
I love the places you take this thing.

Me too. I am loving the mobile cabin. If I could just get it to ride worth a shit I would be happy as hell.

Headed to pick up the bumper this weekend.

Java 10-23-2019 03:28 PM

Thinking about bags vs coils again.... Frustrated by this stupid thing. Worried I am stressing the frame a lot rather than the suspension moving enough.

I was just looking at the bag data again, It shows 5.4" tall at bump stop contact if I am reading correct. If I am only running the bags at 8" tall that is not much movement. (and corresponds to the zip tie test IIRC).

Maybe I'm better trying to find a coil that will allow a bit more movement.... UGH. Not sure I even want to try pink tanks.

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