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Old 04-10-2018, 05:51 PM   #51 (permalink)
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See if the dealer takes returns? Then buy an F550, restart thread.
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Way to long of a bed, too much overhang. Over weight, hard mounted, and you still want to hook up to a trailer.

No way in hell.

Ditch the bed and buy a toy hauler or put a camper on a trailer.
That seemed like the most versatile and cost effective option from the start.

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On the bright side, your shitty front end should hold up much better since the wheels will never be on the ground. To balance it out you could add a ballast box under the driver's door to match the DEF tank.
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I appreciate all the criticism and concern. It shows how much you all really care about me. Started a new diet plan this afternoon until the rain set in.

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See if the dealer takes returns? Then buy an F550, restart thread.
Yes, he needs more truck.
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I appreciate all the criticism and concern. It shows how much you all really care about me. Started a new diet plan this afternoon until the rain set in.

Honestly, really honestly- you need more than a couple hundred pounds gone. You need to rethink this. This is not a 'oh that is not gonna work in the woods' type thing, this is a 'holy fuck that is gonna be dangerous on the highway with your family ' thing.
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Old 04-10-2018, 08:39 PM   #56 (permalink)
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See if the dealer takes returns? Then buy an F550, restart thread.
Yea, I'm sure they'll take back a truck with the frame welded on.

If OP had started with a Sierra 6500 CC 4x4 this could have been awesome. I like spending other peoples money.
Hell, a CC npr would be sweet, not sure if they can be made 4x4?
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I don’t see much wrong with it, nothing a good ol’ front porch couldn’t do to balance the weight.
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[QUOTE=comeonstart;43566786]The truck is probably in the 8,000-8,500 range as a bare cab/chassis. If this is to be a decicated toy hauler I imagine a purpose built ramp and ditching the flatbed could probably save you some considerable weight. Need to get your crawler weighed first to see if any of that is worthwhile.

This is my set up! 2012 3500 Silverado dually, just the truck with 1/2 tank of fuel is 8440lbs. With camper and tongue weight 14,140lbs, trailer and crawler is 5,900lbs so total weight of my combination fully loaded for camping is around 20,040lbs. I did a fast scale check at work so my numbers are not exact.
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Sorry, for the long reply. You need to put that bed on a SERIOUS diet, If you want to be under max gvwr. You will like how it pulls hills very much.
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On the bright side, your shitty front end should hold up much better since the wheels will never be on the ground. To balance it out you could add a ballast box under the driver's door to match the DEF tank.
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You've produced the Windows 8 equivalent of a crawler hauler.

A gooseneck LQ custom built trailer is ~$60k and will easily support the weight of a crawler.

This setup overloads the truck, costs almost as much as the right trailer and requires you to unhook everything to unload your rig (assuming you get the payload problem sorted out).
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This is my set up! 2012 3500 Silverado dually, just the truck with 1/2 tank of fuel is 8440lbs. With camper and tongue weight 14,140lbs, trailer and crawler is 5,900lbs so total weight of my combination fully loaded for camping is around 20,040lbs. I did a fast scale check at work so my numbers are not exact.
I installed the firestone 7,500# air bag kit which helped the stability greatly.
Sorry, for the long reply. You need to put that bed on a SERIOUS diet, If you want to be under max gvwr. You will like how it pulls hills very much.[/QUOTE]

14,140lbs....isnt that over the GVWR for the 3500....
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Old 04-11-2018, 07:19 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Different strokes I guess. Man that thing was sweet when it was a cab & chassis but man that bed is fugly. Now that the bed is on the truck it’s FUGLY. Put a nice bed on that nice truck and get a nice flatbed gooseneck trailer and put the camper on it like a few folks on here have done. Cut your losses man.

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Old 04-11-2018, 07:26 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I wouldn't be surprised if GM throws your warranty out the window anyway for how you modified the truck. The bed screams improperly loaded/over loaded.

It's a good concept but IMO you'd be better off towing a GN or 5th with it as a cab and chassis and at least letting the trailer carry the weight of all you want so all your truck has to do is pull it.

And as a side note, be very careful about any aftermarket for the L5P. I've heard they can be sensitive, like a cold air intake kit throws off the regen cycle. Who the fuck buys a cold air kit for a truck with factory cold air induction anyway.
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Old 04-11-2018, 07:31 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Am I the only one lost on what the original idea was?

Sell useful daily driver pick up truck and go ~50k into debt on new truck with retarded huge bed that makes it almost impossible to use for anything but hauling a stupid play toy?

I mean I get it if you go buy an older mdt for less than 10k like many have done. But to do it with a brand new truck is just insane to me.
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The truck is probably in the 8,000-8,500 range as a bare cab/chassis. If this is to be a decicated toy hauler I imagine a purpose built ramp and ditching the flatbed could probably save you some considerable weight. Need to get your crawler weighed first to see if any of that is worthwhile.

This is my set up! 2012 3500 Silverado dually, just the truck with 1/2 tank of fuel is 8440lbs. With camper and tongue weight 14,140lbs, trailer and crawler is 5,900lbs so total weight of my combination fully loaded for camping is around 20,040lbs. I did a fast scale check at work so my numbers are not exact.
I installed the firestone 7,500# air bag kit which helped the stability greatly.
Sorry, for the long reply. You need to put that bed on a SERIOUS diet, If you want to be under max gvwr. You will like how it pulls hills very much.
Christ almighty is that Lance really 5000lbs? I'm still looking at rigs and that setup is right about what I'd like. I figured 6000lbs payload would be more than enough to have some play room even with a trailer that's around 8100lbs loaded.

As for the OP... I dunno man. There seems like a lot of not enough thought before the wallet came out going on here.
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whats you wheel base? how about rear axle to ball length?

the #800 trailer tongue weight. with the ball to rear axle length will effectively cantilever the rear axle. wouldn't be surprised if it takes #200 of the front and #1000 on the rear. a weight distributing hitch will also be far less effective.

i really like the idea of the build. i would love to do something similar my trucks a 2wd f350 6.2gasser cab n half long flat bed. currently i stuff a cherokee, and 3 quads in a 24' enclosed with 7k axles. loaded i weighed 22,000. but in the last year had a kid and another on the way, i need better accomodations.




I'll be watching your weight numbers especially interested in if you get enough weight on the steers. with the willys on the bed the front end looks to have lifted 2-4". my setup is over weight but doesn't concern me because its balanced. your going to have to put the wheelers front tires over the cab, or move the axle back. i'd be far more concerned about getting weight to the front axle than having weight high up.

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Old 04-12-2018, 01:21 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Another thought... Hodges prices are actually a great deal on lengthening the frame and adding a really nice ramp truck bed.
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A rollback would be perfect
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Iíve never seen one of those are on such a light chassis. 450/4500 or 550/5500 yes
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Iíve never seen one of those are on such a light chassis. 450/4500 or 550/5500 yes
Thatís what Iím saying. Buy a used rollback and put a decent bed on the GMC and forget all of this happening.
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I’ve never seen one of those are on such a light chassis. 450/4500 or 550/5500 yes


They are around here usually on mid 90s f350ish chassis

Here's one on a 450 but I'll bet its rated for less then a new Chevy

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto...544249631.html


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https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto...549075020.html



:edit: you said 450/f550.

Anyhow I see broken down ones on a accasion for $3000ish. Seems like that would be a good deal just to strip the aluminum roll back.
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Christ almighty is that Lance really 5000lbs? I'm still looking at rigs and that setup is right about what I'd like. I figured 6000lbs payload would be more than enough to have some play room even with a trailer that's around 8100lbs loaded.
Dude, those slide in truck campers are HEAVY! My wife and I really wanted to get one because they really are great for small families who like a variety of vacation styles, but I'm doing a Cummins swap in an 87 F350, and those trucks just DON'T have the payload rating of the modern trucks, so no half-way decent size slide in camper would LEGALLY go down the road.

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$5700 seems like a drop in the bucket when talking about a new 50k truck and your family's and others on the roads safety. Plus the whole having it done for you and correctly
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Now that youíve bagged on and picked apart the OPís idea just let him build the damn thing.
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More lighter plus hellwig bigwig air bags. These are larger diameter so make for a tighter fit and install, but only require 65 psi to lift 2800 lbs per bag.












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