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Old 06-13-2018, 07:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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6.0 ford f250 with 138k miles worht buying?

Seems like a decent truck and I know the 6.0 are problematic but it seems many are getting 300k miles on them now..

So what the general consensus on the 6.0, have they been around long enough to know how to wok the bugs out or still complete crap?

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How much are they paying you to take it?
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How much are they paying you to take it?
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Seems like a decent truck and I know the 6.0 are problematic but it seems many are getting 300k miles on them now..

So what the general consensus on the 6.0, have they been around long enough to know how to wok the bugs out or still complete crap?

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Get the right person to work on it who understands their weak points, uses the right parts and you're good to go. To many shops, even some Ford dealers just throw parts at the 6.0's to "bulletproof" them without even having a clue what they're trying to accomplish. If I didn't drive a newer 6.7 psd I'd be driving an 05-07 6.0 which was originally what I wanted before this 6.7 basically fell into my lap.
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Get the right person to work on it who understands their weak points, uses the right parts and you're good to go. To many shops, even some Ford dealers just throw parts at the 6.0's to "bulletproof" them without even having a clue what they're trying to accomplish. If I didn't drive a newer 6.7 psd I'd be driving an 05-07 6.0 which was originally what I wanted before this 6.7 basically fell into my lap.
Exactly. I think of my 6.0 as a "mechanic's special" Took some work to fix previous owner mistakes, but now that it's sorted, she's been reliable.

OP, what's the asking price for the truck?
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Price on the truck is $10k, Crew cab 4x4. Seen many others in the same price range give or take a little for miles
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What year?

Price is fair for pretty much all the years of the 6.0.
If you pay someone to make it reliable, you'll drop upwards of 10k in parts and labor.
The 03 and early 04s have crappy high pressure oil pumps.
The 04+ have good HPOPs, but still have plenty of other issues.
None of the 6.0s should be chipped, as, they block design only has 4 head bolts per cylinder, and, with increased cylinder pressure, are prone to blow head gaskets. Stock, they're 'ok', but not 'great'.
All have crappy turbos.
They have weak design on the 'snap to connect' connector that hooks the HPOP to the high pressure oil lines. The upgrade part bolts together. There's also a upgrade 'dummy plug' for the HPOP lines that'll be needed. And, if you're really going to do it right, buy new head bolts, and swap those out. The OEM ones are 'torque to yield'.
Regarding the electronics, the FICM is prone to failure, as is the high pressure oil sending unit.

Couple other issues, all the 6.0 had issues. The 6.0 has the oil cooler and the EGR inside the valley, between the heads. The oil cooler uses engine coolant to cool the oil. The EGR also uses the same coolant. Because the engine blocks had excessive sand that wasn't removed during the casting process, the oil cooler often gets clogged, and, causes the EGR to also fail. And a failed EGR often leads to head gasket failure. Lots of fixes for this, but all are kinda spendy. Few years ago, everybody just deleted the EGR, but, that seems less common now.
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Whats a $5k truck worth after you put $23,579 into the 6.0l?
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Whats a $5k truck worth after you put $23,579 into the 6.0l?
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If you pay someone to make it reliable, you'll drop upwards of 10k in parts and labor.
You paid over twice what it should cost if the truck has no other issues up front?
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I bought my late 04 F550 for $7800 and put about 10k into it, in parts, to go through the whole top end. 210k miles at the time of purchase. Rolled in a number of upgrades "while I was in there". Now I've got a F550 with 224k miles (two years later) that's been reliable, save for one alternator failure and shit reman starters. Joke was on me replacing the starter proactively

There are tons and tons of updated parts for these motors from ford. Rockers, rocker clips, pushrods, stand pipes, dummy plugs, STC fittings, gaskets, heads, etc. Keep good oil in them, change on regular intervals, put archoil in the oil as an additive. Keep on top of coolant maintenance as well. If you want more power than stock 325hp, then plan on studs at a minimum, studs and o-rings are preferred.

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10k for a 138k mile truck doesn't sound bad if it has been well maintained, but I'd stray away if it's been modified. Too many people trying to sell 6.0s with bad head gaskets, with only band-aids to get through the pre-purchase inspection. Happened to me, but I'm still happy with my truck. Lots of scumbags out there.
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You paid over twice what it should cost if the truck has no other issues up front?
Nope.

But I owned an 05, and had estimates done on the work. Was quoted by several folks, both diesel shops and Ford dealers.

Now I drive a dodge.
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I bought my late 04 F550 for $7800 and put about 10k into it, in parts, to go through the whole top end. .

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Price on the truck is $10k, Crew cab 4x4. Seen many others in the same price range give or take a little for miles
So can you afford a 20k truck? I would pass and buy something else, but I don't like spending 20k to get a reliable truck that is worth 10k.
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^^ Good question. About half of my cost was upgrades (exhaust, intake, injectors, FICM) and other strictly unnecessary thing. If the truck has been maintained well, there won't be additional cost. Mine was not well maintained.
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If the truck has been maintained well, there won't be additional cost. Mine was not well maintained.
There is ALWAYS additional costs, especially so, with a Ford 6.0 diesel....
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I nabbed a clean '05 with the EGR delete, studs, new HPOP for $7500. I had to immediately sink another $1100 roughly in for new head gaskets and top end work including a new oil cooler (since I was already there). Had 320k on it.

In total, I've also had to replace the FICM with a upgraded model and I opted to replace all steering components under the chassis. I'm content with the truck, the only current annoyance is the hydroboost leaks the powersteering fluid and keeps getting connectors coated creating false codes for a cam position sensor. I'm probably in around $12k total now? Most reliable vehicle at my house honestly.
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Wow a 6.0 liter thread full of bullshit. I'm shocked.

Those of you posting good information. Keep at it.
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So can you afford a 20k truck? I would pass and buy something else, but I don't like spending 20k to get a reliable truck that is worth 10k.
As I stated above, I included a number of upgrades in that $10k price that weren't strictly necessary. Intake, exhaust, injectors, ficm, etc. Necessary parts were $3-4k total, but my truck was not well maintained.

If the $10k truck has been well maintained and not hopped up, then it won't require additional money in repairs. I have a few friends with stock 6.0s that are very happy with them.
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Wow a 6.0 liter thread full of bullshit. I'm shocked.

Those of you posting good information. Keep at it.
It always ends up being 6.0 owners defending their trucks from the haters, doesn't it?
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There's a youtube channel called powerstrokehelp.com that has oodles of great info and plenty of "what to look for" type stuff.

Our family pulling rig is an '03 6.0 and yes, they're flawed. Very much so. We've seized a motor after a headgasket blew, and now we're chasing down gremlins in the fuel and electrical system (which is attributed to an early 6.0 truck).

IMO, stay away from the '03-'04 and make sure you know how to maintain it and what to look for while it's under your ownership. They require more attention to detail than most engines, but once done they're easily 400k mile engines with the right parts and assembly knowledge.
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well here's my story with my 6.0

i picked up an 06 f250 with about 124k miles on it about 4 yrs ago for $20k

everything was fine for about a month and then egr cooler (i think) went bad, shop said about 4300 to fix (and upgrade other parts while there in there) and i said [email protected] it just do a full bullet proof

4 years and 40-ish thousand miles later no notable problems until last week the FICM went bad and that costs me $1100 to fix

I bought a 6.0 because I'm a ford guy, i like the bodies, i really like the interiors and the other big factor was the coil front end! (which reminds me you'll want a new track bar)
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If you can afford a $10k truck that's going to need $10k in repairs you're much better off finding a nice $20k truck that doesn't need any work.
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Wow a 6.0 liter thread full of bullshit. I'm shocked.

Those of you posting good information. Keep at it.
I know! Idiots keep saying a 6.0 is worth owning.

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IMO, stay away from the '03-'04
There no point in owning a leaf sprung 6 oh no. Theres bo point in owning a 99-03 superduty without a 7.3L either.

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I bought a 6.0 because I'm a ford guy, i like the bodies, i really like the interiors and the other big factor was the coil front end! (which reminds me you'll want a new track bar)
100% agree. They're great trucks besides the boat anchor under the hood. I would love one with a 555 5.9L.
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well here's my story with my 6.0

i picked up an 06 f250 with about 124k miles on it about 4 yrs ago for $20k

everything was fine for about a month and then egr cooler (i think) went bad, shop said about 4300 to fix (and upgrade other parts while there in there) and i said [email protected] it just do a full bullet proof

4 years and 40-ish thousand miles later no notable problems until last week the FICM went bad and that costs me $1100 to fix

I bought a 6.0 because I'm a ford guy, i like the bodies, i really like the interiors and the other big factor was the coil front end! (which reminds me you'll want a new track bar)
Why not a 3V V10?
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Why not a 3V V10?
i have an 02 f350 v10 as well and wanted a smoother ride/diesel version

at the time i was looking the only other ford option was the 6.4L but i aint that dumb

nowadays you can find 2011-2013ish fords with 6.7L's for like $30k i would definetaly go that route if you can finance it
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