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Old 11-04-2018, 03:57 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Well, I guess if you only use your trailer once a year you don't need to grease it. If your putting 50K a year on it, better grease it or it will end up like this.

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I cannot for the life of me, understand how you guys do not see the fifth wheel plate on a semi tractor getting grease and a ball hitch gets ran dry.
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Well, I guess if you only use your trailer once a year you don't need to grease it. If your putting 50K a year on it, better grease it or it will end up like this.

exactly why i grease mine
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:05 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I never greased mine until I saw someone do it and realized I'd been doing it wrong.

Coincidentally, my young start up Mexican yard guy stopped by this week, a little shaken because he'd just had his trailer pop off the ball. I separated it from his dedicated tow rig, and found his dry ball worn to fuck. I rummaged thru my shit and got him a ball, explained the grease, and didn't get charged for the month
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:13 PM   #30 (permalink)
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it's almost like they make lithium grease just for this

https://www.amazon.com/Reese-Towpowe.../dp/B0008F67JU
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I grease mine before going on long trips were the trailer won't likely be disconnected for 1000 miles. I also leave my hitch in all the time and just have one of the rubber ball covers to keep yourself clean if you bump it.
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:42 PM   #32 (permalink)
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it's almost like they make lithium grease just for this

https://www.amazon.com/Reese-Towpowe.../dp/B0008F67JU
i almost posted that exact link

but i just use what ever grease i got
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Old 11-04-2018, 06:56 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Well, I guess if you only use your trailer once a year you don't need to grease it. If your putting 50K a year on it, better grease it or it will end up like this.
Shitty hitch is shitty.

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I cannot for the life of me, understand how you guys do not see the fifth wheel plate on a semi tractor getting grease and a ball hitch gets ran dry.
We're not greasing the kingpin
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Old 11-04-2018, 06:59 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Well, I guess if you only use your trailer once a year you don't need to grease it. If your putting 50K a year on it, better grease it or it will end up like this.

Lmfao so you post a picture of a rusted out trailer that's obviously had a poor maintenance schedule and blame it on no grease on the ball. Grease is not going to prevent that from happening if you never take the time to clean your equipment. It probably would expedite the situation by trapping dirt and grit in there.

And no nobody's talking about road tractors 5th wheels because you're not putting 40k lbs on a ball hitch.
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Old 11-04-2018, 07:06 PM   #35 (permalink)
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We're not greasing the kingpin
but the kingpin isn't supporting all of the tongue weight right? The plate is right? You grease the plate right?
What supports all of the tongue weight on a bumper pull trailer?
the ball? So why wouldn't a touch of grease be warranted on the ball?
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Lmfao so you post a picture of a rusted out trailer that's obviously had a poor maintenance schedule and blame it on no grease on the ball. Grease is not going to prevent that from happening if you never take the time to clean your equipment. It probably would expedite the situation by trapping dirt and grit in there.

And no nobody's talking about road tractors 5th wheels because you're not putting 40k lbs on a ball hitch.
so let's do some math on how many lbs per square inch a 40K load on a 5th wheel plate is vs how many lbs per sq in it is to have 1K lbs of tongue weight on a 2 15/16 ball top.

so I picked your average fifth plate size of 27.5x35.
that's 927.5 square inches.
40K lbs on that area is 43lbs per sq inch.

What's the bearing surface of a 2 15/16 ball?
Maybe an inch?
so even if you only have 300lbs of tongue weight t's still more pressure than what's exerted on a 5th wheel plate.
and you grease those.....
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Old 11-04-2018, 07:19 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Lmfao so you post a picture of a rusted out trailer that's obviously had a poor maintenance schedule and blame it on no grease on the ball.
San Diego trailer so rust is not an issue. It never got detached from the truck till I replaced the hitch. Poor maintenance yes, they didn't grease the ball
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Pintle with a 1-7/8 ball will fit any coupler. Some more loudly than others. When the coupler rusts through at the top it can be kind of hard to get the trailer off.

I'm surprised none of you cranky old men have drilled and tapped a coupler for a grease zerk.


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. It allows me to switch back to a standard coupler if I ever wanted to.
Yeah, but by the time you want to take it off it will be rusted solid.
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I have always put a dab on about once a year. It just makes sense to me. I don't worry about the ball collecting dirt in the grease because I only have the insert in the truck when I'm towing. Otherwise it's stored in a cabinet. And if it happens to get dirty, it's no effort to wipe it off.
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I keep a bottle of that black synthetic brake caliper grease with a brush cap in the door of my truck. It works good, stays where it's put, and the bottle and my hands stay clean so I don't fucker up the inside of my truck. If you grease your ball, you'll find that the trailer doesn't try to force the truck around in the lane as much. With less friction, the trailer can move more independent of the truck. Works for me, do what you want.
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Old 11-05-2018, 10:26 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Well, I guess if you only use your trailer once a year you don't need to grease it. If your putting 50K a year on it, better grease it or it will end up like this.

I order all of the bumper pulls at work with adjustable Bulldog style couplers for this reason. We had a whole group of trailers wear through about the same time, that was an unproductive month.

Wear through the cast adjustable coupler (unlikely)? Two bolts and you have a new one, as opposed to 3 hours of grinding, beating, cleaning and welding and then trying to paint it.

I grease my personal stuff, 5th wheel plate and trailer ball.
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Old 11-05-2018, 10:39 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I always have, what metal on metal surface couldn't benefit from a little grease. Then once the hitch goes in my tool box after towing I just wipe it off. Can't seem to hurt in my mind...
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Never did until the last couple years when I started towing our brand new Campers....ironic I guess.

Maybe once or so a year I just put a couple dabs of white lithium on the top of the ball. It works it's way around after 1 or 2 trips. I don't have to worry about it getting on my pants because I don't get close enough to the hitch when it's in; I've banged my leg on it enough times to have learned it hurts.

I see no reason not to put a few dabs of whatever grease you have around on there. The damn ball can't be more that 10-20ft from a container of some type of grease in any of our garages at any given time so just throw some on once a year.
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No. I run the Andersen greaseless Alumiballs. You just replace the sacrificial cap for $5 every few years

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No. I run the Andersen greaseless Alumiballs. You just replace the sacrificial cap for $5 every few years

What is an aluminum/polymer ball rated at?
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Yeah, but by the time you want to take it off it will be rusted solid.
Good point, but I yank it whenever it's parked somewhere that someone could steal it. It's 100% of the time boxed in by other vehicles whenever it's got sleds on it.
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I always have, what metal on metal surface couldn't benefit from a little grease. Then once the hitch goes in my tool box after towing I just wipe it off. Can't seem to hurt in my mind...
Ones that are chrome/coated.

Squirt some grease in your spark plug holes every oil change. Itll add another 100k to the life of the engine

Its a frivolous practice, but if thats what makes you sleep at night, go for it.
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The ball/hitch interface acts as a chassis ground.
you're one of the people that thinks dielectric grease on your battery terminals will cause anything to happen other than a lack of corrosion in there
aren't you?
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