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Old 08-03-2019, 08:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Half ton for towing 7k in Colorado, Will I kill a bus load of nuns?

Short question: Would you buy a 5-10 year old half ton to tow 7k of Jeep and trailer through the mountains of Colorado maybe a dozen times a year or just buy a 3/4 ton gaser?

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The '02 2500HD with an 8.1 is getting worn out and I keep going back and forth on replacing it with a newer half ton vs a gas 3/4 ton. The old lady drives it 2 miles each way to work, occasionally it moves for truck duty, or to tow 7k (4,400 of jeep, 2,600 of 20' 10k car hauler) with about 500 pounds of crap in the bed. We live in Denver so every time we hook up a trailer we are headed up into the mountains on curvy roads full of idiots. So far we've towed the jeep 3 times this year with Moab being the farthest and might tow once a month at the most.

We are used to 8mpg with the old lady daily driving or 8mpg towing to Moab so fuel mileage isn't a big deal. Just looking for something newer with possibly a couple more amenities. My biggest concern is braking/ handling in a panic situation like I70 on a holiday weekend.

I like the 2011 F150's we have at work but have never pulled with one, we had a 2018 Ram 1500 as a rental and liked it, 0 experience with GM or Toyota in the era we are thinking. Thinking 5.0 Ford, 5.7 Ram, 5.3 GM, under 100k 5-10 years old, probably keep it for 5 to 7 years. We can get a lot nicer half ton compared to a 3/4 ton truck for the same money and a half ton works much better for car duty.

Would you buy a half ton or just bite the bullet for a 3/4 ton?
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Old 08-03-2019, 10:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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An F-150 would do it, but a 3/4 ton would feel more solid doing it.
Any reason why you didnt list the 3.5 ecoboost in your selection?
For towing, especially at altitude, it will walk away from a 5.0

A 6.2 Ford would be a solid bet, and you can find them cheap.
I paid 16k for my 2011 XLT 4x4, with 120k on it.
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I towed with a ‘96 half ton 5 speed 5.7 and it scared the shit out of me. 7k car hauler and a 4Runner on 37s and Yota axles, never weighed it.

2 mile drive to work find another 8.1. That’s what I have now.
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An F-150 would do it, but a 3/4 ton would feel more solid doing it.
Any reason why you didnt list the 3.5 ecoboost in your selection?
For towing, especially at altitude, it will walk away from a 5.0

A 6.2 Ford would be a solid bet, and you can find them cheap.
I paid 16k for my 2011 XLT 4x4, with 120k on it.
I'd consider the ecoboost but there's a lot more crap to go wrong with turbos so that's why I was thinking a NA truck. I've got a buddy who tows with one and likes it.

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I towed with a Ď96 half ton 5 speed 5.7 and it scared the shit out of me. 7k car hauler and a 4Runner on 37s and Yota axles, never weighed it.

2 mile drive to work find another 8.1. Thatís what I have now.
Pretty sure a '96 half ton is like comparing apples to oranges to a newer 1/2 ton. Trying to find a newer truck and the newest 8.1 is an '06 or '07 so it's either going to have a ton of miles or sat a ton.
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Of course, but...
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Old 08-04-2019, 07:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I would do it with an ecoboost/6.2 F150 or a 5.7 Tundra. A V10 or 6.2 F250 would tow better in the hills and be just as comfy around town with only a slight mileage decrease.
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8.1 owner here and as much as I like the truck the new halftons are not much of a step down in the towing department... especially the EcoBoost.
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Old 08-04-2019, 07:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I dd a '12 F150 with Ecoboost. I have towed my Rodeo down to Moab and St George a few times and always felt fine. Granted I'm not quite as high in elevation and while highway 6 is windy it's not horrible. I've never felt the need for a bigger truck..... but I drive a lot more daily than your wife does .. so I'd rather have the comfort and ease of dd a half-ton vs towing less often.

With the OEM brake controller it does a great job of stopping/ slowing down the trailer (I estimate at 7500lbs) coming down the hills/canyons.... and I am able to tow at 70-80 the whole way...even up the hills....and I've averaged around 9.5-10mpg throughout the trips...as high as 11.2 and as low as 7.6 with head winds.

I think it would do it just fine.
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I have a '16 Ram 1/2 ton with the 5.7. In my opinion it tows just as good as my old 2002 7.3. I have load range E tires on it. Tows like a dream. They are rated at 10k with 3.92s.
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