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Old 08-13-2019, 06:45 PM   #26 (permalink)
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The one shackles rotated around when it hit the frame, it looks like. Rotate the one around and it will probably get you fairly back to level, then fix the frame.
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Old 08-14-2019, 02:32 AM   #27 (permalink)
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The one shackles rotated around when it hit the frame, it looks like. Rotate the one around and it will probably get you fairly back to level, then fix the frame.
Fawk I looked at that pic for a few minutes and couldn't figure that out! I knew something wasn't right though. Thats why I asked about the tire being on something.
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:18 AM   #28 (permalink)
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The one shackles rotated around when it hit the frame, it looks like. Rotate the one around and it will probably get you fairly back to level, then fix the frame.


Good eye! So youíre saying to basically flip that shackle over? So that the bolt holes at the bottom are now at the top? Or would it be best to just buy a new shackle?
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Good eye! So youíre saying to basically flip that shackle over? So that the bolt holes at the bottom are now at the top? Or would it be best to just buy a new shackle?
Shackle is fine. Ive done this before just jacking the trailer up in the wrong spot and the hanger inverts. Would make one tire not even touch the ground .

Just take the wheels off that side and monkey with it till it flips back to the correct way.
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Shackle is fine. Ive done this before just jacking the trailer up in the wrong spot and the hanger inverts. Would make one tire not even touch the ground .



Just take the wheels off that side and monkey with it till it flips back to the correct way.


Gotcha, I see what youíre saying now. Thanks!
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Look at the first picture the driveway is pretty sloped and trailer is way nose high, equalizer is were it will be like that, shackle should settle back when front axles moves level again. Place trailer on level ground it should level out before you waste time.
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Fawk I looked at that pic for a few minutes and couldn't figure that out! I knew something wasn't right though. Thats why I asked about the tire being on something.


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Good eye! So youíre saying to basically flip that shackle over? So that the bolt holes at the bottom are now at the top? Or would it be best to just buy a new shackle?
They should be like this:
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They should be like this:


Thanks, itís pretty obvious now that I know what Iím looking at. Iíll get that taken care of first before I work on the frame.
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I personally wouldn't add rails. It makes it hard to tie anything down because you can't lay in under the side to hook chains/straps. If you straighten it and stiffen it up, it should be fine for a long time as long as you don't overwork it like the P.O. did. I owned my trailer for about 22 years before I bent it, and that was only because I was pushing it's capacity and had to do some severe evasive maneuvers at highway speed. Up until that point, I had hauled cars, trucks, tractors, small forklifts, firewood, and all manner of other shit that was within the capability of the trailer and never had a problem with bending it.
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Edit; seeing that shackle inverted, you can see where the frame was riding on the shackle/equalizer and it bent right behind it. Straighten/stiffen it, get the shackles sorted out, and it will be fine.
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Gotcha, I see what youíre saying now. Thanks!
just remember.

if you wouldn't put your dick in'er, don't put your fingers in'er.

lots of force there, so don't be fucking stupid. It's gonna scare you when she flips back round.
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if you wouldn't put your dick in'er, don't put your fingers in'er.



lots of force there, so don't be fucking stupid. It's gonna scare you when she flips back round.


Thanks for the heads up!
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I personally wouldn't add rails. It makes it hard to tie anything down because you can't lay in under the side to hook chains/straps. If you straighten it and stiffen it up, it should be fine for a long time as long as you don't overwork it like the P.O. did. I owned my trailer for about 22 years before I bent it, and that was only because I was pushing it's capacity and had to do some severe evasive maneuvers at highway speed. Up until that point, I had hauled cars, trucks, tractors, small forklifts, firewood, and all manner of other shit that was within the capability of the trailer and never had a problem with bending it.
Travis..

Edit; seeing that shackle inverted, you can see where the frame was riding on the shackle/equalizer and it bent right behind it. Straighten/stiffen it, get the shackles sorted out, and it will be fine.


Thanks for the advice, I plan to just haul my Jeep on it 1 or 2 times a month. It definitely wonít be overworked like it was before. Hopefully Iíll have a semi decent trailer by the time this is all done.
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Of the three car trailers I have owned they were all made from angle iron and flimsy as fuck! Depending on where or how they were parked they all looked tweeked. Put a chain from front to back over the top, put a block and a jack over the bent spot and jack, hopefully lifting the back up, then box the inside for a couple of feet at the bend.
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Flip shackle/springs back right and it should sit level and be all good. They will invert and get all wonky if you jack the trailer up empty and not flip them back before setting the trailer back down. Looks like what happened to me.
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:34 AM   #40 (permalink)
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When I had a shackle flip like that I had to put some weight on it to get it to flip back. I drove my skid steer all the way forward on the trailer while it was hooked to my truck. Then I backed the trailer's front axle on a hump to further unload the rear axle. Finally I used a floor jack to lift the flipped shackle on the spring side until it popped violently back over. You definitely don't want to be under the trailer or have any body part near it when you flip it back. This includes prying with a long screwdriver ir crowbar because when it flips it will fling that screwdriver into you (or a tire).
Mine had flipped from crossing rough terrain with an uneven load. Because of this I am planning on using slipper springs on my next trailer build. But that is just because of how I use my trailers, the shackle design is fine for most applications. Sometimes they will flip when loading and unloading if you don't have something like a jack or legs under the rear of the trailer when driving on a heavy load. Most likely that is how your frame bent due to all the weight of a heavy vehicle being supported by the single point on the frame where the equalizer was hitting.
Is the upper side of the frame bent also or is it just the bottom? If the upper is not bent you might bend it using the chain and bottle jack method mentioned before. If top and bottom are bent then use the bottle jack method but anchor it closer to the jack rather than across the whole trailer. If only the bottom is bent then you should use s spreader inside the frame rail to straighten it out. But you may have to rig up a way to do it because you likely don't want the right tool for that job. If the metal is thin enough you might reverse the ends on a clamp to spread it. You could also try a piece of all thread between two thick metal plates that have been drilled and spread then with two nut and a wrench. If you need hydraulic force you can remove the deck board and put the lip of a bottle jack on the lower side and strap it in place before using the chain and jack method. Also when you anchor you chain make sure that you spread the load out or you will just dent the frame where the chain is hooked.
Once the frame is straight I would box it where the suspension mounts. You really don't want to anchor you straps there anyway but if you need one weld an anchor point on the side of the frame there. Trailers usually fail at the tongue or suspension so beef those parts up.
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