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Old 07-09-2018, 06:34 AM   #526 (permalink)
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Should have put "heavy" in parentheses.

Depending on the setup, it's going to be extra tongue heavy due to having nothing on the back of the trailer to counterbalance, similar to a toy hauler with nothing in the back. A bumper pull would be more susceptible to bucking, depending on wheelbase and expansion joint spacing on some highways, but gooseneck/fifth wheels will as well with the extra tongue weight.
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Old 07-10-2018, 07:08 AM   #527 (permalink)
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the only time we camp without the rig is with my parents at the lake about once a year. My set up is still new and has yet to be pulled without the rig so I can’t tell ya how it does without the weight on the back. When we do go I plan on pulling the ol lady’s suv on the trailer just to help with the load. That way we can use her car to run to town or anywhere else we need to go instead of unhooking the dodge. Maybe a hassle and a little inconvient but if it allows me to use my camper other than just wheeling one time a year or so I don’t mind
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Old 07-10-2018, 07:39 PM   #528 (permalink)
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Old 07-14-2018, 05:45 PM   #529 (permalink)
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Here’s mine, just finished it. Now gotta get the trail rig done, 32’ overall deck, 16’ trailer and 16’deck.

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Old 07-27-2018, 09:20 AM   #530 (permalink)
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I don't understand what you mean. Yeah, it's going to be heavier than an empty trailer. But not heavier than with the camper + the rig. And I assume you go on long trips with both, right?

I'm also wondering if there is bucking or any sort of weird handling characteristics with just the camper on there. I read somewhere else that someone with one of these setups experiences a lot of bucking without the rig loaded at the same time due to trailer flex? (I assume?)
I have a 9ft slide in camper mounted on the front of my 34ft gooseneck. Compared to a empty trailer it just feels like added tongue weight. Nothing unusual. When its loaded with my rig or rig and grill it just feels loaded and heavy when accelerating. Neither feel unusual or ride extremely rough.
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:21 AM   #531 (permalink)
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Bumping this up to bring up a lot of great photos and hopefully get some new ideas. Now that I have a 7.3 and a serious GF that is into offroading and wheeling/camping I'm looking to upgrade from my 18' 14k trailer to something a little more serious for longer wheeling trips/more comfortable camping.

I really like the idea of these because everything can be loaded in advance. Dedicated tools, equipment, etc can stay in the trailer exclusively. Really cuts down on packing/prep time. I used to sleep on the bench seat in my old single cab but I think I'm past that point.

Ideally I would have a gooseneck 26-28' so I could haul two rigs without the camper setup. Typically I am hauling only my rig. For this reason I like a popup as I don't have a lot of the heavy equipment needed to unload a truck camper in a reasonable time frame. However, the pop up requires more setup/tear down, etc.

I have a line on a possible 24' bumper pull 14k trailer for an even up trade for my 18'. Does anyone have any hate against a bumper pull that long? I know a gooseneck would tow much better. I'm still 25 years young so budget-friendly is very much my M.O. Just looking to learn experiences from other individuals that have been down this road.

Thoughts/suggestions/comments?

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Are you talking pop-up camp trailer sideways on the front of a bumper pull? I would think it's plenty do-able, but will depend heavily on where the axles are and your rig weight, loading, etc. I would say do what you can afford and make the best of it. There is no perfect set-up.
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Are you talking pop-up camp trailer sideways on the front of a bumper pull? I would think it's plenty do-able, but will depend heavily on where the axles are and your rig weight, loading, etc. I would say do what you can afford and make the best of it. There is no perfect set-up.
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I am considering it but also want to hear others experiences, opinions, etc. I could get into a goosneck as well of 24ft or so for roughly the same price I could sell my current trailer for. Just considering all options and what will work best before diving in.

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I had a 26’ bumper pull that I really liked. Had the 14k Equalizer hitch that I used on it and it was very usable. Long enough for two rigs but still pretty manageable. I’ve since gone to a 28’ goose and have been impressed but not overly enough that I’m “never anything but a gooseneck “ guy

As far as camping trailers go, I’m 100% not a tent trailer guy.
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Old 05-18-2019, 12:38 PM   #535 (permalink)
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I have used tag along trailers to tow 4Wheeler and offhighway camping trailer in he past. The one I still have is a 23' PJ trailer with 7K# axles, 16"wheels, 8 bolt pattern, all steel case tires (Bridgestone Duravis R250). Worked great for its intended purpose, about 10K# rolling down the highway.


Recently changed over to a 28' gooseneck trailer, 15K# tag, 8K# single tire axles, 17.5" continental commercial tires. Made change to upgrade from a popup camper on the truck to a 11'-6" slide on camper on the gooseneck. My wifes request. I am at the 15K# tag rating of the GN rolling down the road, but its actually a 17K# GN. SO not over loaded.


Towing the GN is more stable than towing the tag along. It's heavier because it has more amenities than the tag along and popup camper had. Toilet, shower, Holding tanks (black and gray). If I want to take the overland trailer along with the jeep somewhere for an extended tailgate camping experience, moving to a new place along the trail every day, I can still use the tag along setup. So far the GN setup is very usable and comfortable. Base camp and daily excursions. Remote places.


Here's a facebook group link for GN TH setups. And another for crawler haulers.

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You can search facebook Gooseneck Toyhauler or Crawler Hauler, you'll find the groups listed that way.

There are some tremendously talented folks out there building these GN Camper Toy Haulers.

You could note that I am very conscious of axle ratings and tires used on trailers. The Key to an uneventful adventure in my opinion.

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Old 05-18-2019, 01:06 PM   #536 (permalink)
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For guys that are mounting cab over campers on your trailers, I'd like to know or see pics of your base for the camper to sit on. My cab over has an overhang like many do, and so I have to have a base to set it on. I was thinking of making the base out of angle iron, but am happy to see other/better ways.

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I would love to have those FB links if possible. I don't have fb so doing it on Google only found a business named crawler hauler, why does everything have to be on FB
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:03 AM   #539 (permalink)
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I would love to have those FB links if possible. I don't have fb so doing it on Google only found a business named crawler hauler, why does everything have to be on FB
I agree, and it is an annoying, difficult community platform to use. But that seems to be where many people choose to share info. Kinda disappointing, but there you have it. Very happy to find this thread on this forum BTW. Thanks !
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For guys that are mounting cab over campers on your trailers, I'd like to know or see pics of your base for the camper to sit on. My cab over has an overhang like many do, and so I have to have a base to set it on. I was thinking of making the base out of angle iron, but am happy to see other/better ways.
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I used 2x12 lumber topped with 1/2" plywood and 1" horse stall rubber matt. It made a HEAVY table to put the camper on, it's nearly impossible to buy straight milled lumber these days, so it was a pain to build.. But it works. Used 5" long new fangled tech screw lag bolts and liquid nail to hold it all together. Has cross blocking between stringers. Lots of paint to seal up the wood. I would encourage you to build an angle iron frame. Or remove the holding tanks and relocate them under the GN, especially of the GN is a 102" wide over the tires flatbed model. Chop the tail skirt of the camper to the bottom of the entry door. I have seen pics of one and it is a lot lower on the trailer than mine. but with mine up about a foot above the deck, I do not worry about the camper front overhang contacting the short bed truck cab on tight maneuvers.
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Wow. There is so much awesome in that setup.
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