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Old 03-01-2013, 06:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2 seat chassis with 4 seats

I know there's a thread or maybe 2 on this already but I suck at searching particularly with my phone. I want to see how you fit 4 seats in to your 2 seat Ftoy or X-chassis. Pics if you got em. Thx !
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It seems running an extra-cab or long-bed frame would best as the rear arches up further back and then cut off the extra length. This would give more room to sink the backseat down as far as possible.

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Maybe. I already have an Ftoy and it's on an early regular cab frame.
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I suck so bad at searching that I didn't see this thread further down on this same F'n page! I would have expected somebody to flame me for that? This forum really is slow these days huh?'

https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1049221
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We're just nice an' shit.
Well yea that and the fact that nobody comes here any more.
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Well yea that and the fact that nobody comes here any more.
Its not that bad is it? Some of us check in every now and then. I used a fold and tumble jeep seat. Worked great for kids bit sucked for adults.
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Its not that bad is it? Some of us check in every now and then. I used a fold and tumble jeep seat. Worked great for kids bit sucked for adults.
I may just add a 3rd single suspension seat in the rear. Looking at the rig and measuring I won't have enough space for everything if I use a bench.
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I believe Brian Ellinger is shoehorning a bench in his, too.
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My fold + tumble tj jeep seat is 40" wide at the foam, but it's frame will sit between toy frame rails. I have to cut out the round crossmember it sits on now and will push it back ~4" for legroom and drop it the same 4" or a bit more. Bottom of seat will be at bottom of frame.
I will have to move my shocks and fuel back the same 4". At that point, I will probably move my fuel tank all the way back or make a custom cell that takes the Toy pump and sender.
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I believe Brian Ellinger is shoehorning a bench in his, too.
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My fold + tumble tj jeep seat is 40" wide at the foam, but it's frame will sit between toy frame rails. I have to cut out the round crossmember it sits on now and will push it back ~4" for legroom and drop it the same 4" or a bit more. Bottom of seat will be at bottom of frame.
I will have to move my shocks and fuel back the same 4". At that point, I will probably move my fuel tank all the way back or make a custom cell that takes the Toy pump and sender.
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40" TJ flip/fold seat, back of seat sitting on round crossmember:



Kurtuleas' boys last year. I believe they were about 9 and 11.




Then-9yo daughter and a 6yo friend:


Then-7yo daughter and a 7yo friend:


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Here's my thread on converting the foam flip/fold seat into a suspension seat.

Seat pan is suspension, seat back is still thick foam, but I carved "buckets" into the back so the kids wouldn't slide into each other when we sidehill. It also made the seat deeper. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/gener...sion-seat.html
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Cool. I don't have any kids to haul now though so I need enough room for adults even if they are cramped a bit. Just sayin i'm not sitting back there!
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When i built mine i added the rear seat bar option. Then when i went back and added the jeep seat i wished that i had used a straight bar mounted farther back.That would have allowed me to move the seat back and gave more leg room. The seat was just a bit wider than the bends in the bar. I have had adults ride in the back but its usually chicks. I mean female friends of the family.., or cousins... or my sister yeah thats the ticket deff not chicks.
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I know mine's a little different because its a 4 sweater to begin with but I ran a PRP seat for a Razor. I had them make it a little wider to fully use the width of the Toyota. The Razor seat works well because of the shorter seat area (from front of the seat to the vertical area). I'm actually considering selling my rear bench seat and just putting a single seat. The bench is a tight fit for adults.
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I shoved a 48" sunsension seat in the back, good for kids, 8 and under. now my kids are 15 and 11 they don't fit and forget about an adult! I'm not starting over either.............
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That's sort of why I'm thinking of the single suspension seat in the rear center so that person has a little more leg room between the front seats. I'd make a place to rest your feet above the rear case output.
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I planned mine as a 4 seater from the start. I was going to not move the engine back at all but after measuring i went the full 8 inches. then i tried to fit a ice chest in the back an d it didnt fit anywhere. So i made it a station wagon. i made the 36 inch master craft bench easy to remove when no one is riding and the ice chest goes in that spot. The back seat can fit two small adults.
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I planned mine as a 4 seater from the start. I was going to not move the engine back at all but after measuring i went the full 8 inches. then i tried to fit a ice chest in the back an d it didnt fit anywhere. So i made it a station wagon. i made the 36 inch master craft bench easy to remove when no one is riding and the ice chest goes in that spot. The back seat can fit two small adults.
I have considered that option but I hate to loose the "Ftoy-ness" of it. I like the wagon look ok but it doesn't look like an Ftoy anymore.
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I agree but it sure makes it a lot more user friendly if you arnt competing.
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I agree but it sure makes it a lot more user friendly if you arnt competing.
True and I'm thinking of Spider 609s, 39s and a turbo anyway.
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I also want to keep the FToy look, so I'm thinking something like this:
https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyot...l#post14107395
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Now I'm thinking I'll wait until I get ready for the new axles, big engine, big tires and stuff then hack it all to hell and do it all at one time.
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How many times have you preached to me keep true to ftoy. I dont feel so bad about my plans now.
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Maybe I'm getting older and wiser?


More likely I just don't give a shit any more and/or I know I can put it back like original if for some reason I want to. The older I get the more my motto becomes
"if it ain't fun I ain't doin it". Not being able to carry enough people and stuff is becoming Un-fun as is breaking axle parts. So I'm working to eliminate that which is Un-fun.
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