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Old 08-05-2019, 03:21 PM   #1601 (permalink)
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What size tubing did you go with for your new drag link and tie rod?
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Likely will, maybe some poly bushing washers on one side of the tie rod to minimize wobble. Found some on McMaster for pretty cheap
maybe ? https://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/R1768.html
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Old 08-05-2019, 05:05 PM   #1603 (permalink)
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What size tubing did you go with for your new drag link and tie rod?
Same material as before, I'm recycling it since I'm cheap 1.5" 1/4 wall DOM

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Looks like thats for tie rod ends, not heims.
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Old 08-07-2019, 08:35 AM   #1604 (permalink)
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Ram tacked in. Pondered mounting it so it opens to the pass side but it fits too good where it is, literally 1/8Ē of clearance everywhere at full left steer. Gained a couple inches of clearance though, will be nice to use the ram skid as a ramp and not a battering ram haha



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Old 08-07-2019, 05:56 PM   #1605 (permalink)
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Polyurethane wobble stoppers with a metal sleeve inside

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Old 08-12-2019, 11:31 AM   #1606 (permalink)
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Metal. Working on the sleeves today then paint and drive!

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Old 08-12-2019, 01:50 PM   #1607 (permalink)
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Looks good!

Do you plan on double sheering the tie rod at the steering arm? maybe a simple tab off the long bolt sleeve?

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Old 08-12-2019, 05:34 PM   #1608 (permalink)
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Looks good!

Do you plan on double sheering the tie rod at the steering arm? maybe a simple tab off the long bolt sleeve?
That's the idea. Though I think its less necessary now since the bolts for the tie rod heims are much shorter. One of the long 3/4" bolts is very slightly bent from the tie rod being mounted midway for 5 years.
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That's the idea. Though I think its less necessary now since the bolts for the tie rod heims are much shorter. One of the long 3/4" bolts is very slightly bent from the tie rod being mounted midway for 5 years.
My tie rod was mounted in the upper 1/3rd and my bolt is bent enough that Iím going to have to cut it out. Granted my sleeves were machined and I made them very tight....to tight apparently
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My tie rod was mounted in the upper 1/3rd and my bolt is bent enough that Iím going to have to cut it out. Granted my sleeves were machined and I made them very tight....to tight apparently

And you have hydro assist too? Maybe I just donít wheel that hard lol
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Just have to hook the ram lines up and take it for a spin

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And you have hydro assist too? Maybe I just donít wheel that hard lol
Ya my steering is very similar to what u have now. Only real difference is my tie rod is mounted on the long bolt instead of an additional tab
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Old 08-14-2019, 05:26 AM   #1613 (permalink)
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Ya my steering is very similar to what u have now. Only real difference is my tie rod is mounted on the long bolt instead of an additional tab

I wish I had hi steer arms where I could have gone from hi steer arm straight through to the stock location. Something like Artec arms. These are straight, oh well.

Other than spilling a quart of Swepco fluid on the garage floor, things went smoothly and it drives great. Found out the tie rod heims are blown out as well, time to throw down again for a couple more FK heims and get rid of these cheap Ruff Stuff heims for good



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Old 08-14-2019, 06:20 PM   #1614 (permalink)
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Thanks for sharing your updates, Iíve always enjoyed this build Iím heavily entertaining this style of steering setup for my application, due to packaging purposes and one question i have is whether or not you have noticed a slower and reduced turn radius due to the new, longer effective steering arm length? Iíve read various opinions that suggest keeping the steering arm and pitman arm ratio within 90% of being a 1:1 ratio, and iím curious to hear your feedback on any variation youíve noticed with the updated setup?
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:52 PM   #1615 (permalink)
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Thanks for sharing your updates, Iíve always enjoyed this build Iím heavily entertaining this style of steering setup for my application, due to packaging purposes and one question i have is whether or not you have noticed a slower and reduced turn radius due to the new, longer effective steering arm length? Iíve read various opinions that suggest keeping the steering arm and pitman arm ratio within 90% of being a 1:1 ratio, and iím curious to hear your feedback on any variation youíve noticed with the updated setup?
Yeah ideally the ratio between pitman arm length and hi steer arm length would be closer for better steering. At least where the drag link is mounted could be shorter. My steering radius is worse than stock, U turns that I could take in 1 shot is now a 2 shot ordeal. But for packaging and uptravel numbers I think it's pretty well setup. I probably could get more nuts with it and re-mount the panhard further back and bend it a lot more so it fits around the diff and oil pan (like -Matts-) but thats more work than I want to do at the moment That would allow me to put the drag link closer to the pivot point on the hi steer arm and net better turning angles. I'm already maxing out an 8" travel ram though so I don't know about fitting a longer one under there but I'm sure its possible.
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:54 AM   #1616 (permalink)
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Thanks for the in-depth response! There always seems to be trade-offs and I'm in the same boat when it comes to optimizing the package for up-travel and suspension performance, especially given the size constraints of the 1 ton platform (i'm currently in the mocking stages of stuffing a passenger side drop, front 14 bolt in an 01 tacoma and its quite entertaining to say the least).

Thanks again for keeping us posted with the evolution of your rig, and i look forward to hearing your overall thoughts on the steering updates once you have more seat time with the changes.
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