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Old 12-30-2011, 02:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone put together a Rock Assault housing from TG?

Couple of issues. I have the Elocker flavor.

First, the 3rd is nowhere near fitting to drop into the axle as the stud splay is way off. I guess I could knock the studs into "place" with a mallet or put a nut on them and hit with a hammer. Anyone ran across this? What did you do to remedy?

Second, I have heard report of the rear spewing gear oil from the breather, on the rears especially. Anyone have this issue? I was thinking of adding a baffle around the breather. Again, anyone do this and maybe have a picture of what you did and your success in not having a gear oil leak.
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Yea they are mass produced and the stud alignment is usually screwed just be happy you checked before applying silicon just wack the studs a bit unroll it goes on smooth I don't know about the breather problem but your idea sounds good
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Friend of mine has problems with the rear TG housing spitting gear oil. Extended the diff breather with some hose and then it started blowing axle seals. We saw a couple of the TG guys at the Rubithon and talked to them about it. Basically you need to fix it yourself is what they said.
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Friend of mine has problems with the rear TG housing spitting gear oil. Extended the diff breather with some hose and then it started blowing axle seals. We saw a couple of the TG guys at the Rubithon and talked to them about it. Basically you need to fix it yourself is what they said.
I know that its shitty to have to fix yourself but at this point I dont mind since its new in the box. If it all assembled and on the raod I'd be more upset.

Did they suggest anything to "fix" it?
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Did they suggest anything to "fix" it?
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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by breather are you talking about the bellow thing that expands? those dont do anything but create PRESSURE after absorbing about 1% of what the axle produces. they create enough pressure to douche your face with hot gear oil at 2am on the side of the highway. run a hose up to a valve cover filter at the frame and you'll be golden.
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First, the 3rd is nowhere near fitting to drop into the axle as the stud splay is way off. I guess I could knock the studs into "place" with a mallet or put a nut on them and hit with a hammer. Anyone ran across this? What did you do to remedy?

I had to knock mine into place with a brass hammer.

Second, I have heard report of the rear spewing gear oil from the breather, on the rears especially. Anyone have this issue? I was thinking of adding a baffle around the breather. Again, anyone do this and maybe have a picture of what you did and your success in not having a gear oil leak.

Mine has not done it but if it did I was going to plug the hole and install a bung in a difference spot.
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Couple of issues. I have the Elocker flavor.

First, the 3rd is nowhere near fitting to drop into the axle as the stud splay is way off. I guess I could knock the studs into "place" with a mallet or put a nut on them and hit with a hammer. Anyone ran across this? What did you do to remedy?
i bought a diamond, my third dropped rite in like the og housing
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i bought a diamond, my third dropped rite in like the og housing
Brian is a little more anal about his products then TG is!!!!
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Had the same issue with mine. Two of the studs even came pre bent for me!
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I just drilled all the holes on the third a hair bigger then stock, and they fit.

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until I can take the third back out and weld a baffle under the hole. I also considered drilling a new hole off to the side, and putting a plug in the original and running the breather off the new one.
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Your location says Fresno. Why not drive over to TG and have them answer your question? Maybe they can finally get around to fixing to what seems to be a common problem.
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I have a taco width TG rear housing on my truck that I DD and I haven't had any problems with it puking gear oil. I ran a breather hose up to the frame, stay away from the stand alone type. I had to tap the third with a dead blow to get it to seat, didn't take a lot though.
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i have a taco elocker housing. no issues on assembly, and I am using a stock taco breather since my muffler is right above the center pumpkin.
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don't say anything bad about these housings... or you may have the same fate as Rick
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I am not saying anything bad about the housings and certainly not talking shit. Its a nice piece. I understand mass produced items can be a little off. Just seeing if smarter people than myself had another idea that I hadn't thought of

I am just looking to solve problems before they start since I am just looking to get the thing together and installed in the next month hopefully.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts
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i had to knock mine in. i didnt put enough silicone on though so im going to have to take it apart again and im planning on drilling out the 3rd and making some more room for the gears. luckily im in no hurry to go out or id be more mad
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What fittings have some of you used to bring you breather up to the framerail?
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Toyota intake vacuum fitting.
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I too would say sell it and buy a diamond, but....

I don't have either housing, but after modding my stock rearend I had some breather issues too. If you could put a baffle in that will most likely help as the factory rearends come with baffles. On mine I had to just relocate my breather further away from the ring gear. The ring gear and carrier would essential coat the breather hole with oil and once the rearend got hot the change in temp would force oil and air out the vent. One other idea I thought of was to go to a bigger vent hose. I was using 1/4NPT fittings and 3/8" hose, stepping it up to 3/8NPT or bigger might make the vent hose less likely to "plug" with oil and allow the rearend to vent.

I'm surprised anyone actually uses those stupid bellows things.

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Do you guys shave the bottom of your thirds so they don't hang down or do you leave them as is?
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So if someone says something bad they will throw a tantrum and go through and delete most of the tech they had posted? I somehow doubt that...
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max p, I know what you are talking about and this is gona sound dumb but we cut a small triangle piece and welded it to the bottom of the housing so the diff casting wasnt hanging down. Just looked like it either needed shaved or needed a "ramp" to get rocks not to snag on it and possible break the casting. Kinda defeats the purpose of the shaved housing welding a 3/8" plate on but it looks right now and my buddy didnt want to shave the casting. My casting, on the other hand, is shaved down in that area and the seal surface is pretty thin but is working OK. I think shaving the casting would be more popular, but both work. Heck, most probably just let the rocks grind away the extra...
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max p, I know what you are talking about and this is gona sound dumb but we cut a small triangle piece and welded it to the bottom of the housing so the diff casting wasnt hanging down. Just looked like it either needed shaved or needed a "ramp" to get rocks not to snag on it and possible break the casting. Kinda defeats the purpose of the shaved housing welding a 3/8" plate on but it looks right now and my buddy didnt want to shave the casting. My casting, on the other hand, is shaved down in that area and the seal surface is pretty thin but is working OK. I think shaving the casting would be more popular, but both work. Heck, most probably just let the rocks grind away the extra...
^^ I didn't notice this till after I took mine for a shakedown run. Luckily I didn't break the diff lip off! I fell asleep last night contemplating how much material would be left if I shaved it off.
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I wish there housing was round enough that it didn't have the 3rd hanging down. I would lean toward welding a lip on the axle housing.
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