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the 8" and rcv's are doing fantastic, including front digs on 37s. as for 4th gen. I dont think its a bad idea, but lighter and smaller it is not, much larger, longer, and wider, heavier, than the 3rd gen
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I haven't driven many 4.7's but when I had a supercharger on my 2000 3.4 4runner i thought it was pretty quick for what it was. Would smoke the 265 75's into second gear pretty easily and that was with an automatic. That was just the supercharger. No tune stock everything no 7th injector.
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I have a 4.7 2004 runner, and it seems smaller and more sporty than my 3rd gen runner had had along time ago. feels lighter, feels smaller (shorter) and its got ALOT of power...
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So I checked out the 4600 class before the start of the EMC at KOH. Nothing but Cherokees, grand Cherokees, high dollar wranglers (read Jesse Coombs) and one lonely IFS 1st gen 4runner. Looked like a pretty well built rig with what he said was a total chaos knock off. Seen it race a few times before and I believe he finished a couple years ago but not in time. I would like know how far he got before time ran out or he broke. Anybody know this cat?
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Given the FU2 decal, Bender and Flash probably know.
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Said they broke an A-arm - I asked what happened as they were driving by on race day just after noon, and that's the answer I got. I believe that is a mirror image of the Hammertown Schoolbus, if anyone remembers that rig...
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Bummer.. Looks like the Yotas are getting outgunned by the heeps. There used to be alot more yotas out there. I wonder if people are starting to figure out that it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to dump thousands of dollars into a rig to race an event where you literally have a about 2% chance of finishing let alone winning. That being said I still want to do it...
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Not much Toyota love out there this year. Hell even the one that killed the 4500 class last year got the LCE 4banger ripped out, an LS dropped in, got painted blue, and DNF'd. At least Marlin is still reppin' with a vender booth. We'll see how long that lasts. It seemed pretty basic compared to last years'.
Sad times. I think the 4600 class is just going by the wayside. You see the type of build Combs had this year and it's like...why... That being said, if I had the base coil front runner/taco sitting around and some support I'd build it and give 'er hell. |
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hell the 4500 class is a long way from the 'spirit' of a next level above stock class, but the multiclass racing is still a good dynamic and 4600 is still much cheaper than the others. to finish in time would be huge.
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Lots and lots of four-cylinder Toyota’s in Hammertown. They just aren’t racing. That’s why Marlin is there. That’s where the money is.
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Yup, there was Yotas everywhere just not on the starting line. There was 15 or 20 heeps lined up so I think the 4600 class is far from dead. Although there were only 5 or 6 at the Reno nationals IRCC.
One of my buddys purchased a complete dual case setup from Marlin while he was there so there's that.. |
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I've been doing a lot of research on 4600 Toyota builds lately. I had spoken with Brian about a 4th Gen 4Runner KOH build I'm contemplating, but sponsors have been slow to roll in. I've tried about 10 so far.
I also went big and tried Toyota as a sole sponsor given the comments above about Jeeps taking over KOH and they responded by saying: "Thank you for your proposal on Steel City Racing for King of the Hammers: Everyman Challenge 4600 Class. We carefully review all sponsorship submissions, and at this time we unfortunately must decline your offer to partner on the Steel City Racing for King of the Hammers: Everyman Challenge 4600 Class as it does not fully match with our current corporate marketing objectives. We invite you to resubmit for a future opportunity, and would like to extend our best wishes for a successful event. Regards, Toyota Engagement Marketing Team" At least the responded ![]() Anyway - I'm still working on two build options - a 4th Gen 4Runner or an '85 Toyota - both fully built (diamond axles, atlas II, etc) to the extent possible given the rules. I'll be honest - both budgets are coming in above $55K including the vehicle with the 4th gen only around $6K more than the '85 - the '85 needs a lot of parts from LCE to get the 22RE to 200hp without a Turbo ![]() After a few months of research, I've concluded that finding a sponsor interested in 4600 Class Toyota are necessary to actually make this happen!
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Here's my question. I know the weight and WMS would be better on a 3rd gen vs. 4th gen. And a 3rd gen with a supercharger is tempting vs. the heavier 4th gen v8. But the 4600 rules say:
"Forced-induction of all types is not permitted, unless factory equipped." A few posts above indicated that some of you believe certain years of the 3rd gen were offered with Superchargers as a factory option. I did some research this morning to confirm, but couldn't find this. Example of what I found is below: What 3rd Gen years & models had Supercharger's? - Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum Does anyone have any evidence that a 3rd gen with a supercharger could fit the KOH 4600 class rules? If so, I'd like to see where a 3rd gen would come in cost wise.
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Once you find the answer, may want to email KOH tech and quote what the answer has been in the past - or ask specific questions like this to them. That way, you have a documented response you can save on your phone or print out and have at the races with you in case there is ever any debate. In the past I've taken a folder with race rules and any printed email questions printed out...
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I know this thread is now a bit old, but the thoughts, ideas, and opinions in this thread were the genesis of the 4th Gen 4Runner IFS Toyota Coilovers Based - KOH 4600 Stock Class Build I'm working on. THANK YOU to all of you who contributed above - you are the inspiration and genius behind this project.
Now, let's get started! If you want to follow us on Instagram and Facebook: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SteelCityRacing4x4/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steelcityracing4x4/ And check out the official build thread here: https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyot...ld-thread.html It's going to be an awesome build and an amazing adventure. Please follow, support, and pray for us!
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Instead of starting a new thread figured I would ask here.
RUle book says. 8.3.2 FRAME & BODY 1) Stock frame (frame is considered to be the primary frame rails and all permanently factory cross members) must be retained, and must be complete and unmodified. No material may be removed for any reason and no section of the frame may be 'massaged' or re-shaped with the following limitations and exceptions: The rear portion of the frame and rear cross member may be removed or trimmed for the sole purpose installing an aftermarket rear bumper. Frames may be reinforced by adding material. Now on an IFS tacoma the front a-arm crossmember is welded in but rear has a bolt in section. Does that mean you cannot cut the front one or the welded rear section of crossmember? Also front Upper Contral Arm/Coilover Mount. That is welded to the frame. Can that be removed and new UCA mounts and coilover mounts be fabrciated off top of frame and engine cage? Also. Could one ditch the rack and do with a steering box/hydro assist and swing steering in stock location? Or do you have to keep the rack since it came rack factory? |
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ALso some mis information on this thread. Supercharged 3.4 is NOT LEGAL. Since it was a Dealer installed option NOT a factory option.
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