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Old 01-23-2016, 07:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Which birfs

The Longfield Gun Drilled 30-Spline Birfields
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RCVs 30 splines
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what are longfields? never heard of em
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Gonna buy a new set and can not decide what set to get
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Stock birfs heated up cherry red and then dipped in ice water are just as strong and you can do it at home!
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Birfield eliminators ftw.
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i hear smurfields are the go to birfs these days
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Ditch the birfs and just go dana 44s probably 10 bolts to be safe

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Stock birfs heated up cherry red and then dipped in ice water are just as strong and you can do it at home!
That's what I was going to do but I heard a guy talking about new ones.

Maybe I can stick one up your ass and you can make them as hard as diamonds.
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Buy both fuckwit for being a fuckwit

Not hard to research
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That's what I was going to do but I heard a guy talking about new ones.

Maybe I can stick one up your ass and you can make them as hard as diamonds.
Well don't stick it up your own ass, it'll get lost.

Maybe not, you might be able to see it then
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Depends, do you want high quality American made axles with an awesome warranty (RCV)... or Chinese axles that you will probably have to fight to get warrantied.

If you decide on quality American made RCV axles shoot me a PM and I will sell them to you cheaper than the Chinese ones.
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Wow got a couple real answers
I have been in the Toyota game for a long time.
I have broke many Birfs, I just wanted real life opinions on the two.
Not stupid answer from post whores.
But hay, the world needs whores right.
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The fact that ANYBODY buys the "gun drilled" birfs is fawking dumb as shit. shits retarded. Hell, they charge people More for that shit. Why? so that it is "easier" to grease the birfield

Fucking hell, so you don't even want to bother making sure you've got enough grease in there to force out the old stuff?

Unless you are trying to save every damn ounce possible, but in that case you would be better served by drilling it yourself (or paying a shop because at that point you care little about cost) and making it a larger dia hole to save serious weight as well as drilling out the inner shafts.


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Wow got a couple real answers
I have been in the Toyota game for a long time.
I have broke many Birfs, I just wanted real life opinions on the two.
Not stupid answer from post whores.
But hay, the world needs whores right.
hmmm... Somebody who is usually in the game "for a long time" would have built up some basic "knowledge" regarding Birfs..
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hmmm... Somebody who is usually in the game "for a long time" would have built up some basic "knowledge" regarding Birfs..
Look dick head, I already know what I'm buying, just wanted real world thoughts. Apparently no one has any real thoughts on the better birfs.
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Look dick head, I already know what I'm buying, just wanted real world thoughts. Apparently no one has any real thoughts on the better birfs.
alright, why would you ever consider paying a price premium for a gun drilled birf?
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Look dick head, I already know what I'm buying, just wanted real world thoughts. Apparently no one has any real thoughts on the better birfs.
Oh dear---don't hurt my feelings

Yes there are allot of thoughts and had you actually spent the time to research whats been pounded out here you would have found that out easily..

You must use facebook allot--because you sure seem really dumb
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alright, why would you ever consider paying a price premium for a gun drilled birf?
Probably because somebody on facebook (toyaholics) said they were reeeely good
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Oh dear---don't hurt my feelings

Yes there are allot of thoughts and had you actually spent the time to research whats been pounded out here you would have found that out easily..

You must use facebook allot--because you sure seem really dumb
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alright, why would you ever consider paying a price premium for a gun drilled birf?
A torsional shaft that is gun drilled correctly is stronger than solid. It gives the material somewhere to go when twisted without cracking/tearing the material. Iirc there was a huge thread on it in gen 4x.
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A torsional shaft that is gun drilled correctly is stronger than solid. It gives the material somewhere to go when twisted without cracking/tearing the material. Iirc there was a huge thread on it in gen 4x.
It just saves weight, and nobody is snapping the shaft side of a birfield. Cracked stars, twisted splines, stripped splines/gears, cracked bells, busted cages, sheared inners, shocked/splintered inners, etc.

For the same diameter shaft, solid will be more resilient than hollow. For weight comparison, a larger diameter hollow shaft will be stronger than the same weight, smaller diameter solid shaft. The OD on a birf is limited by the hub/knuckle/spindle/bushings.

Large techincal injuneer gen4x4 threads aside, it is a (poor) solution to a problem that does not exist with a not-insignificant price premium. Don't get me wrong, it makes huge sense to Trail Gear for fleecing their customers of a few extra bucks for very little work. Trail Gear in turn uses that money to fund the sport and support comps and events etc. so it does have some benefit (at least they used to anyways, if they slowed down I don't know)
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