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Old 02-14-2017, 08:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Solid axle strength question

I'm in the planning and part collecting phase of sas'ing my xterra. One option iv been considering is going to a tacoma width ruffstuff or diomand axle and using the toyota 8 inch diff and outers.
The xterra is on the heavier side at 5k lb will be running 33s and I wheel it fairly tame amd have been able to make the ifs hold up so far so I'm not to worried about the diff.
My question is on the outers (king pin bearings and wheel bearings n such ) how will those things handle the weight? The rig sees about 15k miles a year or so. will I be replacing bearings every 6 months or will it survive?
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Old 02-14-2017, 08:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It wont be a issue as long as you keep the part properly maintained.
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Old 02-14-2017, 09:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It wont be a issue as long as you keep the part properly maintained.
Do you think it would be worth going to trunion elemators for more reliability or properly kept trunions are ok? Iv only delt with bearings on my last truck but I wanna build this one the most reliable as I can on a budget
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Do you think it would be worth going to trunion elemators for more reliability or properly kept trunions are ok? Iv only delt with bearings on my last truck but I wanna build this one the most reliable as I can on a budget
I would stick with bearings for your application.

I also think that for your use I wouldn't even give strength a second thought with a toyota based axle, especially with an aftermarket housing.
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your trunions will be fine as long as youre not running 2" back spaced rims with 3" wheel spacers and youre not daily driving down miles of rough dirt road
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I would stick with bearings for your application.

I also think that for your use I wouldn't even give strength a second thought with a toyota based axle, especially with an aftermarket housing.
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Awesome. Thanks guys
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I would absolutely stick with bearings in the knuckles. We can upgrade you into higher load rated 25mm bearings with our Keyed Steering as well if you really want to be sure!

We can certainly build with the 8" center, or we can do a housing with the 9.375 Nissan h233b diff as well, and since we do shafts, can get those setup to match to a 30 spline RCV joint and the nissan diff should you decide to go that way.

Brake upgrades, and steering we also handle in house as well! So much more than just a housing!
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Just an update since I know everyone likes photos. Ended up going woth an diomand housing xterra 3rd arb rcvs amd 5th gen 4runner brakes with mini truck outers
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What size ring gear is in the xterra 3rd?
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What size ring gear is in the xterra 3rd?
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9.375 Nissan h233b diff
Badass axle! You'll never have an issue. I just wish the HP 233 wasn't unobtanium in the states.
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wow, sounds like budget minded went out the window


edit: pimp setup
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A little overkill for 33s don't you think?
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It's nice to be able to beat things like a circus monkey and not have to worry about them.
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wow, sounds like budget minded went out the window


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Price wise wasn't too bad. I'm at about 4k as it sits.

The xterra is drivers side drop and 6 lug so the only dana 44 that would work is from a wagoneer and I had no luck finding one plus I would have had to regear it. In the end the price wold have been about the same ether way but this way I feel is a much better set up
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Price wise wasn't too bad. I'm at about 4k as it sits.

The xterra is drivers side drop and 6 lug so the only dana 44 that would work is from a wagoneer and I had no luck finding one plus I would have had to regear it. In the end the price wold have been about the same ether way but this way I feel is a much better set up
Where I'm from 4k is a lot for a front axle

Really nice setup though, you got your moneys worth and wont ever have to worry about it.
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Where I'm from 4k is a lot for a front axle

Really nice setup though, you got your moneys worth and wont ever have to worry about it.
I have got about that much in my front Toyota 8"!
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I have got about that much in my front Toyota 8"!
I refuse to add up my receipts, but yeah it gets out of hand
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Awesome, so glad you went with a h233B front. I love the h233 man they are such under-rated axles.

Are you doing leafs or links?
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Awesome, so glad you went with a h233B front. I love the h233 man they are such under-rated axles.

Are you doing leafs or links?
I agree. Here is a toy 8 inch ring gear laid over the h33 ring gear. Size is impressive even the carrier is noticeably bigger


Plan is leafs with front shackles and spring under. Springs are 4 inch tg lift springs.
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Front swing shackles, you're just doing everything different aren't you?
Love seeing more Nissans around, What are your plans for steering and have you decided to do anything about a lower crawl range, or is your rig an auto?
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Front swing shackles, you're just doing everything different aren't you?
Love seeing more Nissans around, What are your plans for steering and have you decided to do anything about a lower crawl range, or is your rig an auto?
Steering is a ruffstuff universal kit with marlin high steer arms and an fj80 forward swing box

Stock 5 speed and single case for now. Looking for ether a dana 300 so I can go duals or save more and get a 4sp atlas
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I refuse to add up my receipts, but yeah it gets out of hand
When I do that and divide by the 10 years I have used and abused my front axle, it doesn't seem all that bad.
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Final update for anyone who cares. Still needs a bit of tuning but it drives and wheels way better then the ifs did



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