Toyota frame shackle bushing 63" - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > Brand Specific Tech > Toyota - Truck and 4Runner
Notices

Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-27-2017, 12:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Member # 190138
Posts: 5
Toyota frame shackle bushing 63"

I've searched all over and can't find out what bushing I need to get so I can build my own rear shackle mount for a Chevy 63" swap. I'm not worried about replacing the leaf spring bushing. Does anybody have a NAPA part number for the bushing and metal sleeve? Also what size of pipe will fit the bushing?
jeepfc170 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-27-2017, 01:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Member # 225201
Location: Can Almost See Fordyce From Here
Posts: 3,413
Ruffstuff to make it easy.
Attached Images
 

Last edited by erictylers1; 04-27-2017 at 01:03 PM.
erictylers1 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Old 04-27-2017, 01:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
Pirate4x4 Addict!
 
TOYOTAPARTS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Member # 61493
Posts: 8,917
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepfc170 View Post
I've searched all over and can't find out what bushing I need to get so I can build my own rear shackle mount for a Chevy 63" swap. I'm not worried about replacing the leaf spring bushing. Does anybody have a NAPA part number for the bushing and metal sleeve? Also what size of pipe will fit the bushing?
you need a 3" long sleeve 9/16 id to match the chevy spring.

Shackle Sleeves

If you are trying to use your old stock shackle hanger tube they are not wide enough.
Shackle Hanger

these are the bushings we use
Bushings
__________________
Great deals on Toyota Parts: :
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

RCV 30 Spline axles FREE shipping.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Yukon parts on SALE
3rd Members priced right. 530-622-2148
for all your electrical needs
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
TOYOTAPARTS is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-27-2017, 01:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
Custom User Title
 
Provience's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Member # 138976
Location: Thurston County, WA
Posts: 28,656
"Energy Suspension 3.2106G Rear Spring Bush for 2 and 4WD" set of 6 bushings off amazon for $44. These are for a 1.5" ID tube, so i've got some of that as well.

Manufacturer Part Number ENE-3.2106G

OEM Part Number BDVQ3.2106G


these are the bushings I'm using for all my frame side stuff, they are set up for 3" over all length and a 9/16" dia bolt.


edit: fuuuuck, davez bushings are essentially the same thing but cheaper should have checked there
__________________
up is difficult, down is dangerous

freedom of choice is what you have, freedom from choice is what you want

keep your head down, go to sleep to the rhythm of the war drums

Last edited by Provience; 04-27-2017 at 01:21 PM.
Provience is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-29-2017, 08:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Member # 190138
Posts: 5
Awesome! Thanks guys
jeepfc170 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2017, 12:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
Pirate4x4 Addict!
 
TOYOTAPARTS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Member # 61493
Posts: 8,917
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Provience View Post
"Energy Suspension 3.2106G Rear Spring Bush for 2 and 4WD" set of 6 bushings off amazon for $44. These are for a 1.5" ID tube, so i've got some of that as well.

Manufacturer Part Number ENE-3.2106G

OEM Part Number BDVQ3.2106G


these are the bushings I'm using for all my frame side stuff, they are set up for 3" over all length and a 9/16" dia bolt.


edit: fuuuuck, davez bushings are essentially the same thing but cheaper should have checked there
__________________
Great deals on Toyota Parts: :
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

RCV 30 Spline axles FREE shipping.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Yukon parts on SALE
3rd Members priced right. 530-622-2148
for all your electrical needs
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
TOYOTAPARTS is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2017, 03:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
Wicked Raciest !
 
OOP'S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Member # 30
Location: Roseville, CA,To many Yuppies, Not enough Hippies
Posts: 17,729
Quote:
Originally Posted by erictylers1 View Post
Ruffstuff to make it easy.
You know a lot of us do not choose the easier, softer way, some of us do like to fab-bro-cate!! When I started building my truck in 97 there were very few vendors so you made it!!
__________________
David & Theresa, Roseville, CA,

As long as my tires are dirty, I am happy!!!!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

OOP'S is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2017, 05:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
ADD
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Member # 22080
Location: Grass Valley, Ca
Posts: 5,171
Quote:
Originally Posted by OOP'S View Post
You know a lot of us do not choose the easier, softer way, some of us do like to fab-bro-cate!! When I started building my truck in 97 there were very few vendors so you made it!!
Can you hand us all a butterscotch candy and tell us about how the Rubicon used to be all orange groves grandpa .....
__________________
Got custom cab?
ADD is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2017, 06:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
Custom User Title
 
Provience's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Member # 138976
Location: Thurston County, WA
Posts: 28,656
Quote:
Originally Posted by ADD View Post
Can you hand us all a butterscotch candy and tell us about how the Rubicon used to be all orange groves grandpa .....
__________________
up is difficult, down is dangerous

freedom of choice is what you have, freedom from choice is what you want

keep your head down, go to sleep to the rhythm of the war drums
Provience is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2017, 10:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Member # 3132
Location: Fair Oaks, CA
Posts: 12,621
Send a message via AIM to NOODLES Send a message via Yahoo to NOODLES
You know they sell 18mm drill bits and 18mm bolts to use stock bushings on the frame side of the shackle.....right? Grind welds, knock off factory shackle hanger, front of hanger will be welded back on right behind where the original shackle hanger was welded
NOODLES is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2017, 10:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Member # 3132
Location: Fair Oaks, CA
Posts: 12,621
Send a message via AIM to NOODLES Send a message via Yahoo to NOODLES
Quote:
Originally Posted by ADD View Post
Can you hand us all a butterscotch candy and tell us about how the Rubicon used to be all orange groves grandpa .....
Walked to and from school 10 miles with 10 feet of snow. Uphill both ways.
NOODLES is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2017, 10:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
YotaAtieToo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Member # 25632
Location: Magalia, Jefferson State
Posts: 11,660
Quote:
Originally Posted by NOODLES View Post
You know they sell 18mm drill bits and 18mm bolts to use stock bushings on the frame side of the shackle.....right? Grind welds, knock off factory shackle hanger, front of hanger will be welded back on right behind where the original shackle hanger was welded
First of all using a sleeve and smaller bolt is the right way to do it.

Second, for a little more that the price of a stupid 18mm drill bit, you could just buy a bushing kit, weld it on and spend more time on the trail.

Funny how some people can waste more time and money trying to be cheap.

I'm all for doing stuff myself, but stupid shackle hangers are so time consuming to build. Especially if you want to source your own bushings , then go try to buy 5" of tubing, finding the right bolts, ect.
YotaAtieToo is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2017, 10:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
Custom User Title
 
Provience's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Member # 138976
Location: Thurston County, WA
Posts: 28,656
kind of sort of, but it is still a good bit cheaper to build your own. if that is all you are doing, then yeah just buy the kit, but if you are going to make more than one set or are doing other things in general than buying the raw materials and using them in multiple spots makes more sense.
__________________
up is difficult, down is dangerous

freedom of choice is what you have, freedom from choice is what you want

keep your head down, go to sleep to the rhythm of the war drums
Provience is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2017, 10:42 PM   #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Member # 3132
Location: Fair Oaks, CA
Posts: 12,621
Send a message via AIM to NOODLES Send a message via Yahoo to NOODLES
Some of that could be true. But the rear shackle bushing do not get the stress that the front shackle bushings do. The fronts actually need the sleeves. And lets not act like that 18mm drill bit for 8 dollars is not going to only drill one pair of shackles in it's life.

I like to reuse the factory hanger, drill one end of the shackle with one of the 2 18mm drill bits i have owned since oops was building his rig in 1997.

Last edited by NOODLES; 05-21-2017 at 10:43 PM.
NOODLES is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2017, 10:44 PM   #15 (permalink)
Registered User
 
YotaAtieToo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Member # 25632
Location: Magalia, Jefferson State
Posts: 11,660
Quote:
Originally Posted by Provience View Post
kind of sort of, but it is still a good bit cheaper to build your own. if that is all you are doing, then yeah just buy the kit, but if you are going to make more than one set or are doing other things in general than buying the raw materials and using them in multiple spots makes more sense.
I'm not talking about the whole kit, I mean just the shackle hangers.

Shackle Hanger - RuffStuff Specialties

$48 - 10% with code pbb10

How fast are you going to eat that up driving from store to store trying to get the materials? A lot of metal places don't like selling small amounts of material. My local metal supplier is pretty good, but is closed on the weekends and is 45 mins away. If that's to expensive for you, just use the Chevy shackle on the frame and have your normal shackle come down from that, like 2002!
YotaAtieToo is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2017, 10:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
Registered User
 
YotaAtieToo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Member # 25632
Location: Magalia, Jefferson State
Posts: 11,660
Quote:
Originally Posted by NOODLES View Post
Some of that could be true. But the rear shackle bushing do not get the stress that the front shackle bushings do. The fronts actually need the sleeves. And lets not act like that 18mm drill bit for 8 dollars is not going to only drill one pair of shackles in it's life.

I like to reuse the factory hanger, drill one end of the shackle with one of the 2 18mm drill bits i have owned since oops was building his rig in 1997.
Where are you getting drill bits like that for $8? I usually pay $40 for large bits like that.
YotaAtieToo is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2017, 10:50 PM   #17 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Member # 3132
Location: Fair Oaks, CA
Posts: 12,621
Send a message via AIM to NOODLES Send a message via Yahoo to NOODLES
Quote:
Originally Posted by YotaAtieToo View Post
Where are you getting drill bits like that for $8? I usually pay $40 for large bits like that.
I don't remember. But i am not going to act like I don't take them to the bench grinder to sharpen them before every use.
NOODLES is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2017, 10:51 PM   #18 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Member # 3132
Location: Fair Oaks, CA
Posts: 12,621
Send a message via AIM to NOODLES Send a message via Yahoo to NOODLES
It actually makes me wish i spent 40 for one.
NOODLES is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-21-2017, 11:01 PM   #19 (permalink)
Pirate4x4 Addict!
 
TOYOTAPARTS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Member # 61493
Posts: 8,917
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by NOODLES View Post
You know they sell 18mm drill bits and 18mm bolts to use stock bushings on the frame side of the shackle.....right? Grind welds, knock off factory shackle hanger, front of hanger will be welded back on right behind where the original shackle hanger was welded
stock shackle hangers are thinner steal, and are too narrow for Chebie springs. Worth the $42 to buy with bushings and just install. :2cents:
__________________
Great deals on Toyota Parts: :
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

RCV 30 Spline axles FREE shipping.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Yukon parts on SALE
3rd Members priced right. 530-622-2148
for all your electrical needs
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
TOYOTAPARTS is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-22-2017, 09:15 AM   #20 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
KacksterK5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Member # 5851
Location: Harford County, MD
Posts: 3,275
Send a message via AIM to KacksterK5
Built mine from some 2"dom and bought the bushings cheap. Sleeves cane with.

Pro tip. Box in the frame for the shackle mounts. It will collapse over time if not.
__________________
"If you ain't first, you're last"


86 4Raisin A bunch of stuff under it


02 Chevy 2500 HD Tow Rig
KacksterK5 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-22-2017, 07:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Member # 147603
Location: Woodpile, NorCal
Posts: 1,357
I Left the stock shackle mount on the frame, bolted the stock chevy shackles to them... laid back they're 4" rear of the stock mount which is where they need to be for stock axle location. Then use whatever length shackle plates you want from there. I drill out the 63 spring and shackle bushings leaving the outter sleeve in the spring. then I mill down a set of rear Toyota spring bushings, the larger diameter ones, to fit all the way into the 63 springs and chevy shackles making them the same width as Toyota springs. This way there's no spring/bushing width issues with the stock Toyota shackle mounts. And you can still use all 18mm hardware. Cheap and easy plus the double-shackle gives more axle drop.
__________________
"Is there a such thing as a comfortable jeep ride?" Alan Alda (MASH)
chevota5.0 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-22-2017, 07:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
Registered User
 
YotaAtieToo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Member # 25632
Location: Magalia, Jefferson State
Posts: 11,660
Quote:
Originally Posted by chevota5.0 View Post
I Left the stock shackle mount on the frame, bolted the stock chevy shackles to them... laid back they're 4" rear of the stock mount which is where they need to be for stock axle location. Then use whatever length shackle plates you want from there. I drill out the 63 spring and shackle bushings leaving the outter sleeve in the spring. then I mill down a set of rear Toyota spring bushings, the larger diameter ones, to fit all the way into the 63 springs and chevy shackles making them the same width as Toyota springs. This way there's no spring/bushing width issues with the stock Toyota shackle mounts. And you can still use all 18mm hardware. Cheap and easy plus the double-shackle gives more axle drop.
Ya, double shackles are awesome
YotaAtieToo is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-22-2017, 08:22 PM   #23 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Member # 102813
Location: PNW, land of liquid sunshine
Posts: 8,918
Quote:
Originally Posted by YotaAtieToo View Post
Ya, double shackles are awesome
The cats meow when they invert.
__________________
[COLOR="Magenta"]Help bring back Swartz Canyon, Join
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Lime"]The good guys...[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]Marlin Crawler, Hellfire Fabworks, Dave'z Offroad, gearinstalls.com (Zuk), Diamond Axle, RADesigns, Advanced Adapters, Jantz Engineering, G-Fab motorsports, Got Propane, JHF [/COLOR]
Mr Stubs is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-23-2017, 10:54 AM   #24 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Member # 147603
Location: Woodpile, NorCal
Posts: 1,357
Quote:
Originally Posted by YotaAtieToo View Post
Ya, double shackles are awesome
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Stubs View Post
The cats meow when they invert.
You two have personally ran this set up the way I explained with the parts I listed and had trouble?

I've never ran into any issues running this set up in the past 8-10 years. Just bought a ruff stuff anti wrap unit to help with wheel hop caused by the 63s but have never inverted a shackle. They don't even open up enough to straighten out.

Hell they didn't even open up when I lost control, went off the freeway, and over corrected twice at 70 mph sliding sideways and fishtailing until I slowed enough to get straightened out. Thought I was dead and probably owe my life to a set of bald 14.5 12ply thornbirds
__________________
"Is there a such thing as a comfortable jeep ride?" Alan Alda (MASH)

Last edited by chevota5.0; 05-23-2017 at 11:08 AM.
chevota5.0 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-23-2017, 12:30 PM   #25 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Member # 3132
Location: Fair Oaks, CA
Posts: 12,621
Send a message via AIM to NOODLES Send a message via Yahoo to NOODLES
I have personally ran that setup 17 years ago. Have fun breaking the chevy shackle. It was stupid. Didn't last 1 season.
NOODLES is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

** A VERIFICATION EMAIL IS SENT TO THIS ADDRESS TO COMPLETE REGISTRATION!! **

Email Address:
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)

Log-in


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.