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Old 09-12-2018, 12:42 PM   #401 (permalink)
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How are we gonna get updates while this things getting jockeyed around???
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I'm going to be hounding everyone for pics and updates! When I get them, I'll post them. Otherwise I'll be in the dark too!

Which reminds me - I bet my new RCVs are sitting in Marlin's shop (next to the Cooper STT Pros and KMC Enduro Beadlocks). Once the Marlin Crawler Roundup is done (this week on the Rubicon), I'll see if I can get some pics of them stand-alone and vs. OEM shafts.

Once we're on the lakebed, IG/FB will likely be the best source for real-time as I won't have time to write on forums until the race is done.
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Check out what just arrived! The 3.8 Atlas II could very well be the difference maker for our 2019 KOH. Special thanks to Steve and Cole at Advance Adapters for sponsoring our build and believing in our team.

Can't wait to get this in Wyatt at RockSolidToys' hands for the install along with his rear 4-Link!







Along with everything we need for the install to the Toyota A750F:


Given the lead-time on the Atlas II, I'm really glad to have this one in hand and ready to ride backseat on the trip out to CA in a few weeks!
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Got the USB to RS-232 adapter needed for our URD MAF Calibrator. We'll be tuning it this weekend.



Also picked up a set of Rugged Ridge Quick Disconnect side mirrors. We'll use them on the drive out to CA and can pull them off for the race. I have seen some drivers leave side mirrors on for the race - if we decide to, these collapse quickly and are made to be beaten on the trail.






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Since the trip to CA is now only a little over a week away, I need to get on Maintenance items. One of the reasons I bought the particular '06 Limited I did was because the PO was meticulous in his maintenance (all OEM) and records. Based on a 6" stack of documents, here is the summary.

The truck has 107K on it now.

Important:
- Oil Changed every 3K Miles
- Brake Master Cylinder replaced at 105K
- F/R Brake Pads replaced at 105K
- Front Calipers replaced at 105K
- Brake Fluid Flush at 105K
- Water Pump replaced at 90K
- Timing Belt replaced at 90K
- New OEM Spark Plugs at 90K
- New Serpentine Belt at 90K
- TB and MAF Cleaned at 90K
- New $200 Die Hard Battery at 107K

Obviously it already has brand new Air Intake, Headers, Hi-Flow Cats, O2 Sensors, Exhaust, Battery/Alternator Wiring, etc.

Not Important for the race, but Still Notable:
- Thermostat and Gasket replaced at 90K (170deg Therm now installed)
- AC Compressor and Condensor replaced at 75K
- Fan Clutch replaced at 75K
- Both Front Axle Shafts replaced when he put 275/60R18 Terra Grapplers and leveling kit on at 80K (will be replaced by RCVs)

No matter what I'm planning on replacing:
- Alternator (New Denso)
- Battery Terminals (Brand ?)
- All Fluids (working on a sponsor here - Mobil 1 or Amsoil maybe?)

Other suggestions?
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Along with everything we need for the install to the Toyota A750F:





Given the lead-time on the Atlas II, I'm really glad to have this one in hand and ready to ride backseat on the trip out to CA in a few weeks!

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Please post up about your experiences with the URD calibrator. I have one ordered for my 4.7 powered tundra and will be tuning it.
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Please post up about your experiences with the URD calibrator. I have one ordered for my 4.7 powered tundra and will be tuning it.
Will do. Should be done with it by the end of the weekend. The stock tune seems to be almost perfect below 3.5K or 4K RPM, but is off above that. We're going to focus our time on the top of the power band.

Just printed the 27 page manual - WOW!
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No matter what I'm planning on replacing:
- Alternator (New Denso)
Per Denso's website, the only option they have for an '06 V8 is a Re-manufactured Alternator - Part #210-0512

Does this sound right - that I cannot buy a New Denso alternator? Regardless, I went ahead and ordered the re-man unit so it'll be here in time.
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Very interested in following your build. I'm building a Jeepspeed XJ and hoping to be ready for the 2019 season. This is our first time racing and building a race ready Jeep. I literally learned to Weld and did my first set of gears building my 9" in the last few months.

I've learned so much about what it takes through these forums/Race-Desert/Desert-Rangerz and went to the Mint 400 to meet other competitors and see their vehicles.

So your build/racing experiences are all very interesting to me as you're new to all this too.
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Very interested in following your build. I'm building a Jeepspeed XJ and hoping to be ready for the 2019 season. This is our first time racing and building a race ready Jeep. I literally learned to Weld and did my first set of gears building my 9" in the last few months.

I've learned so much about what it takes through these forums/Race-Desert/Desert-Rangerz and went to the Mint 400 to meet other competitors and see their vehicles.

So your build/racing experiences are all very interesting to me as you're new to all this too.
It's amazing how much you can learn in a matter of months! Thanks for following the build and I hope to meet you in person in Feb at KOH.
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This is... interesting. The first time i took my 05 Tacoma to koh it was ifs, had 3" midtravel, 63" leafs rear, shaved rear 14bolt, arb locked front n rear, brand new mtr 35's i wasnt afraid of beating it, I had soo much trouble with even the easiest trail Turkey Claw. Not enough clearence on 35's ifs. Emc is still most of the koh U4 course, theres a lot of hard rock parts that a 4runner wont have the right articulation for. Id expect to drag your 4runner through most of it and ill bet youll have wrinkley prune if any body left. I mean theres fully built hardcore buggys that run 4500 and dont finish the first lap. Props to you for trying but if i was serious about racing and trying to finish id build/buy a 4500.

My Tacoma is sas on 40's and one tons now still was gnarly doing even chocolate thunder, not that hard a trail, i blew out a door and window. The rocks are seriously big there for full size vehicle bodys
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Another update:
- We finished tuning via the URD MAF Calibrator. Unfortunately URD doesn't have a map for AFE Intake on a 4.7L V8 and didn't offer to create one for us, so we had to do it manually.

It was harder than we were thinking - me driving 0-60 mph runs, a friend in the passenger seat reading AFR at various RPMs, and a third friend in the back with the laptop tweaking things and re-uploading a new tune ever 2-3 mins. It took us well over an hour, but we got AFR around 14.5 <4K RMP (no adjustments to stock needed) and 13.5 >4K RPMs (adjustments to stock needed here) and decided not to push our luck any more. Very thankful we didn't get a ticket or stopped in the process - doing 60 in a 30 isn't easy to pull off.





- Also got the Rugged Radios 6100 Race Ready kit installed. We gutted everything we didn't need on the center console except for the structural parts and used it to mount the radio, intercom, and toggle switches. Now all we have to do is hook to our helmets, flip a switch, stick the antenna on, and we're ready to go.





- We also finished the secondary locks per KOH rules. Nothing pretty, but they are spring loaded for a quick lock and just plain work. Took a lot of adjustments to get these to lock/unlock easily without space in between.









- Our PRP Safety Nets are almost done. They won't make it to AL in time, so they're being shipped to Luke at 4x4Labs' shop.

- I'm also waiting for the Denso Alternator and Rugged Radios Dual Pumper to arrive later this week. Once they are done, I'll check all fluids and be ready for the drive out to CA this coming weekend. 36-Hr Trip!
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This is... interesting. The first time i took my 05 Tacoma to koh it was ifs, had 3" midtravel, 63" leafs rear, shaved rear 14bolt, arb locked front n rear, brand new mtr 35's i wasnt afraid of beating it, I had soo much trouble with even the easiest trail Turkey Claw. Not enough clearence on 35's ifs. Emc is still most of the koh U4 course, theres a lot of hard rock parts that a 4runner wont have the right articulation for. Id expect to drag your 4runner through most of it and ill bet youll have wrinkley prune if any body left. I mean theres fully built hardcore buggys that run 4500 and dont finish the first lap. Props to you for trying but if i was serious about racing and trying to finish id build/buy a 4500.

My Tacoma is sas on 40's and one tons now still was gnarly doing even chocolate thunder, not that hard a trail, i blew out a door and window. The rocks are seriously big there for full size vehicle bodys
I don't think anyone was expecting KOH to be easy .

You're right that most EMC cars don't finish the first lap - but it's not because of the rock trails. In the past, the first lap has been mostly desert with no serious rock trails. My theory is that the buggies are built for the rocks, but many never make it to them as their solid axle setups can't handle the abuse of high-speed desert - where our IFS will hopefully shine.

We hope to thrive in the desert and survive the rock trails.

We definitely have no interest in 4500! There is a huge benefit to the bypasses allowed for 4600 (most notably Spooners and Outer Limits last year, among others). Yes, we know we'll be winching and dragging the 4Runner through the rocks, but IF we survive the hardest sections, we should make up significant time in the desert and through bypasses.

As you know from this thread, we'll have a strong setup: RJ60 in the rear with RST's 4-link, HD IFS with coilovers and HD steering setup in the front with RCVs. ARBs front and rear. 35's on beadlocks with 4.56 gears, a 3.8 Atlas II, and our throaty V8. And of course Armor all around for "sliding" over the rocks.

We've made our bet on the V8 4Runner platform and come Feb, we'll be the first ones to know if it is a setup that can truly perform at KOH. If you're on the lakebed, please stop by and introduce yourself or lend a hand. We'll need all the help we can get!
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This is... interesting. The first time i took my 05 Tacoma to koh it was ifs, had 3" midtravel, 63" leafs rear, shaved rear 14bolt, arb locked front n rear, brand new mtr 35's i wasnt afraid of beating it, I had soo much trouble with even the easiest trail Turkey Claw. Not enough clearence on 35's ifs. Emc is still most of the koh U4 course, theres a lot of hard rock parts that a 4runner wont have the right articulation for. Id expect to drag your 4runner through most of it and ill bet youll have wrinkley prune if any body left. I mean theres fully built hardcore buggys that run 4500 and dont finish the first lap. Props to you for trying but if i was serious about racing and trying to finish id build/buy a 4500.

My Tacoma is sas on 40's and one tons now still was gnarly doing even chocolate thunder, not that hard a trail, i blew out a door and window. The rocks are seriously big there for full size vehicle bodys
The 4600 class doesn't run anything that a 4runner on 35's should have any issues with. They bypass most trails and the rest are all going down.
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4600 is limited to 35's - so if 35's aren't enough, I'm not sure any of the 4600 class could finish. I suspect the biggest problem with a 4Runner is the wheel base being on the short end for go-fast use.

One suggestion that's very minor but could be useful is to put a tack weld or drill a hole and use a crown nut on the driver's side upper control arm bolt. That side - because of the motion of the arm and being a normal pitch bolt thread - has a tendency to loosen over time in the choppy stuff. I would also tack weld the lower control arm cams so they don't move on you. For normal use, of course I'd do something else, but for this - tack welding is easy and keeps them locked in place. One less thing to worry about.

I'm interested to see how it goes. Good luck!
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4600 is limited to 35's - so if 35's aren't enough, I'm not sure any of the 4600 class could finish. I suspect the biggest problem with a 4Runner is the wheel base being on the short end for go-fast use.

One suggestion that's very minor but could be useful is to put a tack weld or drill a hole and use a crown nut on the driver's side upper control arm bolt. That side - because of the motion of the arm and being a normal pitch bolt thread - has a tendency to loosen over time in the choppy stuff. I would also tack weld the lower control arm cams so they don't move on you. For normal use, of course I'd do something else, but for this - tack welding is easy and keeps them locked in place. One less thing to worry about.

I'm interested to see how it goes. Good luck!
Thanks for the good suggestions. I'll pass this along.
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I've been checking off things in the Ultra4 Rulebook and had two more "small item" questions:

1) It says we have to have a locking dipstick. My OEM one is just a O-Ring style. What do most do here? Literally swap in an Aftermarket Locking dipstick? Or modify their existing one (add a lip it can lock to, drill hole in handle and zip tie, safety wire the handle to the tube mount, etc?)

2) It says steel-braded lines (fuel lines for me) going into passenger compartment must be shielded (and the steel-braded part doesn't count). What is everyone doing to shield these without literally putting sheet metal caps over the entire length? Maybe metal tape would suffice?

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Just zip tie the dipstick. I thought it was only high pressure lines like steering that needed to be shielded. Don't stress much about tech. The shit that fly's through is impressive.
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My antique desert truck has a carburetor return spring holding the dipstick in. I donít know if that would pass tech though. It just goes from the block through the loop.
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Just zip tie the dipstick. I thought it was only high pressure lines like steering that needed to be shielded. Don't stress much about tech. The shit that fly's through is impressive.
Good deal. I'll zip tie and maybe safety wire the dipstick today to cross it off the list. I think you may be right - they said all lines, but did only specify high pressure ones like steering.
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Another Quick Update before I start the 36-hr drive to CA this weekend:
- New Denso Alternator arrived. I tried all sorts of methods to get it out and eventually found a "quick replacement" route that should allow me to swap it in 20-30 mins just in case we have to during the race.





- The old Alternator with 100K Miles on it:


- Also got the new Rugged Radios M3 Two Person Air Pumper system in. I'll be wiring the switch in today and will actually install the pumper to the cage in CA.



I'll be posting some live progress pics from the drive to CA on social media if anyone is following us there. Be praying the drive out is seamless and we make it in record time!

Have a great weekend everyone!
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Rugged Radios M3 Dual Air Pumper is installed. I just have to mount the actual unit to the cage in CA, plug in one connector, and go.



All that's left is packing up and leaving.
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I ended up leaving around 11:30 CT on Sunday to head out on the long drive. For those not following FB or IG and haven't been receiving the real-time updates, as of 9am PT this morning (Wed), the truck is now in Luke and HD's capable hands at 4x4Labs in Grass Valley, CA.

I'm sure many followers are waiting for a long story filled with uncertainty from attempting to drive a KOH bound rig 36-hrs and 2,400 miles across the country. Well, there wasn't much. I literally did not have a single problem the entire trip. The rig is rock solid reliable from an Engine, Transmission, Electrical, and Fuel Delivery standpoint.

I averaged 12-hrs a day only stopping for gas and meals. I put air in the tires a couple times. I checked fluids each morning. I monitored Fuel Pressure, Engine Temp, and AFR every few minutes. And I mostly watched the fuel gauge. I was able to get 15-18 MPG between stops and rarely could make it till 1/4 tank before I simply had to step out and stretch my legs.


The only eventful thing happened on Day 1 where I intentionally ran the gas to 1/16 Tank to find true Empty. It ran great until I went down a steep hill, at which point all the fuel shifted to the front of the cell away from the pump pick-up and the engine died. I threw it in N, coasted down the hill, and fired it back up as soon as I hit the next climb. It died again on the next downhill, but I was able to coast a couple miles in N to a an exit where I ran a stop sign at the bottom of a off ramp and coasted up next to a pump with 0 inches to spare.

After that I never let it get below 1/8 of a tank just in case.

The rest of the trip consisted of driving, eating, filling up with gas, stretching legs, and driving more. The scenery changed enough to keep things interesting the first two days. But once I got past Bonneville in Utah, it got a bit too repetitive - especially in Northern Nevada.


Tons of scenery pics from the trip are on FB and IG. Here are a few of my favorites:


Cheyenne, WY:


Green River, WY:


Bonneville, UT


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This morning I got to spend some time with Luke, HD, and the 4x4Labs team at their new, huge shop in Grass Valley, CA. It's impressivet!



Luke and the team have been building 4x4 Armor for close to 20-years and their products are world class for strength, functionality, and design. They take the approach of allowing their products and reputation to speak for itself - and the pride they have in their craftsmanship and passion they have for the offroad industry shines through in the end product.



Their shop is a mix of Hi-Tech equipment and HUGE old machinery. There is also a massive powdercoating booth and oven - they do everything in house! They have a flow throughout the shop - not a lot of talking, but a ton of work getting done. Behind the shop is at least 1 of every 4x4 Toyota made since the 1st gen pickup for mock-up including tons of Land Cruisers, Tacomas, and Pickups.









They still do a ton of 80 Series Land Cruiser stuff, but see the 3rd, 4th, and 5th Gen 4Runner platforms ramping up dramatically. Our KOH build will augment their large offering with a Complete System of 4th Gen 4Runner Armor that will be integrated together in fit, functionality, and style!

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Old 09-26-2018, 08:41 PM   #425 (permalink)
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For our 4th Gen, Luke and the team will be creating a light weight, extremely strong, high clearance Front Bumper that will be similar in style to the one shown on this GX below and will house our Warn Zeon Platinum 10-S winch and a LED light bar.

This one was still being fabricated while I was there and will still missing a few components including the upper bar in front of the grill (on the floor to the left):


The Rear Bumper will be similar to their existing 4th Gen 4Runner rear bumper and the one shown on this GX. They have 3 or 4 ideas to enhance it to make sure it has maximum clearance and strength while protecting the body and saving weight. This bumper has the best departure angle of any on the market. It'll be made to hold a tire carrier and ladder system in the future, but of course we won't run anything except the bumper to save weight for KOH:




The sliders will be similar to the one pictured below including the slide plates and kick-out at the rear, which will fit our 3" extended on each side Currie RJ60 in the rear. They have some weight saving ideas here too:


And finally, they'll be fabricating a full skid plate system for the undercarriage that will be made out of high strength steel for maximum durability as we drag the 4Runner over obstacles at KOH.

I'm really excited to have Luke, HD, and the 4x4Labs team partnering with us on this car. Their passion is evident in their products. No flashy marketing, no gimmics. Just solid products for those who want maximum protection and performance with top notch design.

Before I left, I handed them the keys and challenged them to work their magic and simply have fun with it. I know they'll do an amazing job and I cannot wait to see the full system of 4th Gen 4Runner armor that will be turning heads when they are done!


Thanks again for the 4x4Labs team for partnering with us on this build and being such wonderful hosts while I was in CA.

Once Luke is done, he'll be driving it to BigMike at MarlinCrawler for the next phase of the build in mid-October.
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