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Old 05-14-2019, 05:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What's everyone doing to upgrade headlights these days?

Need to replace the headlights on my '85, and wouldn't mind upgrading to something worth a shit at the same time. Seems like the older Toyotas always have pretty piss poor headlights.

Bought some of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and put them on a '93 truck that'll be for sale soon. I actually wanted to buy them from Yotamasters, but looks like they're out of stock - think it's the same thing though? Seems like they 'might' be brighter, but wasn't that impressed. I think I definitely need to adjust them, and drive around with them for a few days to see if I notice a difference, but in the meantime, was looking at these on Rock Auto:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...77300&jsn=4444

And these LEDs on Amazon, along with the wiring harness:
https://www.amazon.com/Headlights-7x...Toyota+4Runner
https://www.amazon.com/Headlight-Har...gateway&sr=8-3

It'd be really cool to get some good, bright lights up there, but I also don't want to be the asshole driving around blinding people or look like a ricer with blue lights. What's everyone done that has worked for them? LED, halogen, xenon? I'm kind of dumb when it comes to lights...
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Iím buying semi sealed head lights, I just won a set of h4 led with 32000 lumens. Just have to buy a h4 canbus/resistor to be safe, I run led in all my cars and my gf, canít beat it


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i'm so used to shit lights that i get confused in a newer car with decent beams

I'm also curious what others are using and happy with
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In as well. Was just wondering the same thing, need some new lights for my 84 3rz daily project.
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run bigger wires to the head lights, made mine way brighter, along with quality headlights

and run a thicker wire to the main fuse

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Need to replace the headlights on my '85, and wouldn't mind upgrading to something worth a shit at the same time. Seems like the older Toyotas always have pretty piss poor headlights.

Bought some of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and put them on a '93 truck that'll be for sale soon. I actually wanted to buy them from Yotamasters, but looks like they're out of stock - think it's the same thing though? Seems like they 'might' be brighter, but wasn't that impressed. I think I definitely need to adjust them, and drive around with them for a few days to see if I notice a difference, but in the meantime, was looking at these on Rock Auto:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...77300&jsn=4444

And these LEDs on Amazon, along with the wiring harness:
https://www.amazon.com/Headlights-7x...Toyota+4Runner
https://www.amazon.com/Headlight-Har...gateway&sr=8-3

It'd be really cool to get some good, bright lights up there, but I also don't want to be the asshole driving around blinding people or look like a ricer with blue lights. What's everyone done that has worked for them? LED, halogen, xenon? I'm kind of dumb when it comes to lights...

I have the Hellas with hid conversion. I made my own harness. Iím looking at the led lights. I want more focused light with less amp draw.
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Old 05-15-2019, 12:51 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I have the Hellas with hid conversion. I made my own harness. Iím looking at the led lights. I want more focused light with less amp draw.
For around $75 for the harness plus ledís, Iím thinking I just might order up the lights/harness in the amazon link I posted and see how they do. Thought Iíd see if I could get any feedback here first, since halogen/led/xenon - I donít know much about the difference. Iíll probably give this thread another day or so to see whatís posted, but probably buy that setup and reply here with what I think...
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I have the Hellas with hid conversion. I made my own harness. Iím looking at the led lights. I want more focused light with less amp draw.
Also, quoted you above to ask this question, but got sidetracked. What do you mean by Hellas Ďwith HID conversion?í Different bulbs? Different harness? I just put the Hellas in my dd Ď93 and donít notice a whole lot of difference...
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Old 05-15-2019, 06:26 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Get a pair of clear glass housings and run some HIDs in a warmer color. Something like 4-5k. Nothing colder as it looks to blue and is blinding to others. Aim them correctly. I ran a set on my first gen and they are bright.
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oh boy i dont want to do this but here goes...

i got these

https://www.rigidindustries.com/5-x-...air-55003.html

:sigh: i still dont understand the whole rigid fanboy thing, but my buddy got these and i bought some after seeing his

high and low beams can run at the same time, direct fit, no changing resistors or anything

super bright, its all i had wheeling in johnson valley at night and was perfectly fine, i dont plan on adding any other forward facing lights

i spent like $400 on mine
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run bigger wires to the head lights, made mine way brighter, along with quality headlights

and run a thicker wire to the main fuse
This right here. This is a well known problem. 4crawler actually sells upgraded headlight harnesses. Toyota cheaped out on wire gauge diameter. Toss a multimeter on the terminals of the light with the headlights on. Your average headlight voltage is around 11 volts. Some are under that. With an ungraded harness you will see an 80% improvement in light output. Headlight voltage will be around 12.6 volts after upgrading harnesses.
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Also, quoted you above to ask this question, but got sidetracked. What do you mean by Hellas Ďwith HID conversion?í Different bulbs? Different harness? I just put the Hellas in my dd Ď93 and donít notice a whole lot of difference...
The po of my runner put the hella glass housings in and the hella h4 bulbs with the factory wiring. Light output was low, but not a big deal until I went to moon rocks and the desert soaked up all that light.

Back then my options were, hid conversion or spend big money on a kit like s.w. Speaker. (Those led amazon lights look like copyís)

I got the 55w kit and it still wasnít that bright, after looking at it the factory wiring was unable to supply the required voltage. Ran some new wires, a good ground and a circuit breaker.

Light was now great, everything was lit up and it made a big difference driving long distances. It helped keep you alert.

Iíve had this set up for about 6ish years and I feel like the light out put has faded. Being a trail rig, the lights need to be re aimed. I make lots of new friends heading to the trails, the all flash their high beams and wave.

My head lights are one of the last light to not be converted to led, and seeing the prices drop on well made housings has my attention. Post how you like those, if you get them because I have been complaining about my lights for about a year
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VisionX sells plug and play housings and bulbs. They where night and day difference over stock and I haven't messed with the stock harness yet. I picked them up from marlin but I am sure you could find them for cheap on amazon.
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This right here. This is a well known problem. 4crawler actually sells upgraded headlight harnesses. Toyota cheaped out on wire gauge diameter. Toss a multimeter on the terminals of the light with the headlights on. Your average headlight voltage is around 11 volts. Some are under that. With an ungraded harness you will see an 80% improvement in light output. Headlight voltage will be around 12.6 volts after upgrading harnesses.
i couldnt believe how much brighter my headlights got after increasing the gauge size, i was thrilled to finally be able to see good.
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i couldnt believe how much brighter my headlights got after increasing the gauge size, i was thrilled to finally be able to see good.
Itís crazy. $10 in materials to have nice bright lights or you could be like homeboy and spend $500 on a set of lights.
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Itís crazy. $10 in materials to have nice bright lights or you could be like homeboy and spend $500 on a set of lights.
they were $400 when i got mine
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I put a relay harness on mine and the stock headlights improved considerably
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$38 Ďbeamtechí LED bulbs(amazon) for an h4 housing(98 4runner). Perfect for oncoming traffic(never been flashed though i alugned them just right at install), even CHP said all good when i inquired, yet impressively leaps ahead of the incandescent expensive silvania xenon 5000 whatever superduper bs stuff it replaced. Put a set in dads 08 taco for xmas abd in the factory foglights. He really liked them and the fact they stay just outside of the blueish spectrum at 6500k or so. BRight white, but still white. 4000 lumen each, but in the reflector housing they focus ahead nicely.
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https://www.lceperformance.com/H4-He...-p/3061016.htm

that's the kit im using on my 4runner
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$38 Ďbeamtechí LED bulbs(amazon) for an h4 housing(98 4runner). Perfect for oncoming traffic(never been flashed though i alugned them just right at install), even CHP said all good when i inquired, yet impressively leaps ahead of the incandescent expensive silvania xenon 5000 whatever superduper bs stuff it replaced. Put a set in dads 08 taco for xmas abd in the factory foglights. He really liked them and the fact they stay just outside of the blueish spectrum at 6500k or so. BRight white, but still white. 4000 lumen each, but in the reflector housing they focus ahead nicely.
Ok, so I bought these H4 plugs with larger wire coming out of them on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm going to rewire the harness so that I'm getting more voltage to the lights, then probably buy these:
https://www.amazon.com/RAMPAGE-PRODU...r=8-3-fkmrnull

Last link looks to be the same lights I linked in my first post, and the same lights that LC Engineering has for sale, but $71 on Amazon Prime. I just put the Rock Auto part number into Amazon prime, and that's what they've got. Then later if I want to drop the amps the lights are pulling, I'll just grab the Beamtech led bulbs off Amazon for another $40:
https://www.amazon.com/BEAMTECH-Head...r=8-3-fkmrnull

Thanks for all the replies, I'll definitely post up once I get some stuff rewired and installed, although it might be a week or two...
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I have the ddm tuning 55w kit. Itís a life time warranty. They have covered two replacements for me so far and one system up grade. Thatís if you go the hid route.
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Autopal housings with 80/100w Hella H4 bulbs and a relayed wiring harness. I've been very pleased with the light output, throw, and cutoff.
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Is there a wattage limit for being street legal? Or based on output of lumens?

edit: kind of answered my own question: https://www.autoblog.com/2016/06/22/...ar-headlights/
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Is there a wattage limit for being street legal? Or based on output of lumens?

edit: kind of answered my own question: https://www.autoblog.com/2016/06/22/...ar-headlights/
IIRC, DOT requirements are no more than 55 watts on the low beam.
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