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Old 02-03-2020, 11:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Pull a leaf or two from TG pack or go RUF?

I've got the 4" front TG springs from about 8-9 years ago and it still just sits so damn high. I have an 84 4runner. The rear is on 5" to help compensate for the top/canopy of the 4runner. I'd honestly like to get it down to 35s or even 33s as it has to sit on 37s right now or it looks goofy as hell.

I've read the RUF thread on the spring lengths. It seems I could get an 84-88/89 rear spring pack and it should just about fit where my TG fronts are with the fact that it should move the axle forward about 2" from the TG setup, which may be a good thing.

What do you guys think? Are the RUF spring packs different from 2wd to 4wd and also from 4runner to pickups?
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Old 02-03-2020, 11:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I would start by taking out the bottom leaf of the TG pack. I've done that to almost every pack I've done.
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Old 02-03-2020, 12:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks! I'll give that a shot. I know from reading around that there are particular leafs (leaves?) that serve specific purposes. I believe the front pack I have is 6 leaves and the rear may be 7.
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Old 02-03-2020, 05:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You can definitely start pulling leaves to get those packs lower and softer. The main leaf needs to stay, as does the military wrap second leaf, but after that you can mix and match as much as you want.
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Old 02-03-2020, 06:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You can definitely start pulling leaves to get those packs lower and softer. The main leaf needs to stay, as does the military wrap second leaf, but after that you can mix and match as much as you want.
Thank you for the reply. I have about 4.5-5" between the pumpkin and the oil pan (1UZ swapped). I feel like I could easily drop 2.5" safely. In an attempt to perhaps save some time and not have to drop and disassemble everything multiple times, would you have any recommendations on the amount of leaves out of one these TG packs to pull to get me in the ballpark?

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Old 02-04-2020, 11:56 AM   #6 (permalink)
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As stated I would start by pulling the bottom leaf out. With the weight of the 1uz that would be a good start. Setup up your bump stops to keep the axle out of the oil pan.
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Thanks. I'll do that. When I get around to it, I'll come back and post up results so that others can go off of it. The 1UZ only weighs about 50 lbs or so more than the 22r.
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The trailmart leaves on my taco are awful soft, dickhead p.o. Wanted to lower it so he pulled out 2-3??? (I fergot) of the leaves no bump stops, essed the remaining leaves!
Even with a fresh pack on all 4 corners they sag like a broham in the hood...
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Old 02-04-2020, 04:15 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The trailmart leaves on my taco are awful soft, dickhead p.o. Wanted to lower it so he pulled out 2-3??? (I fergot) of the leaves no bump stops, essed the remaining leaves!
Even with a fresh pack on all 4 corners they sag like a broham in the hood...
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I think I'll probably pull 1-2 from the front/rear packs to get it where I want it and in the meantime look for some RUFs. This will at least get me in the ball park of where I'd like to be and see what kind of issues I'll run in to with clearance etc... I agree with you though. Wish I didn't have these damn springs under the truck. I didn't know any better 8-10 yrs ago.
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I removed leaves and replaced with flatter thin leaves and ran a shorter shackle. I had 3" springs and they were stupid stiff till I messed with them.
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I have been running Old Man Emu CS010R rears on the front of my ‘85 with great results. Replaced my old RUF setup with them. They flex great and complement my 57” F150 rear springs well.
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I have been running Old Man Emu CS010R rears on the front of my ‘85 with great results. Replaced my old RUF setup with them. They flex great and complement my 57” F150 rear springs well.


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Huh, I thought it was 2020 not 2002.

Flat leaves suck. RUF suck, they bend 1st or 2nd trip out.

I can see pulling 1 leaf, any more than that and I'd look at lowering(raising) the mounts.
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I have been running Old Man Emu CS010R rears on the front of my ‘85 with great results. Replaced my old RUF setup with them. They flex great and complement my 57” F150 rear springs well.
Trying to doo the same with OEM CS009R but those springs seems much shorter than my old RUF ... shackel angel is bad .
Did you install a front spring hanger or used the stock one ?
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Trying to doo the same with OEM CS009R but those springs seems much shorter than my old RUF ... shackel angel is bad .
Did you install a front spring hanger or used the stock one ?
The CS009R springs are shorter than the CS010R springs. I am on a stock hanger with banana shackles.
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Better setup than trailmart springs. Wheels great and still has some road manners.
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i replaced the two middle leafs in my TG pack with Toyota rears, definitely brought the truck down a bit but it's still not what i would consider low
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The CS009R springs are shorter than the CS010R springs. I am on a stock hanger with banana shackles.
Thanks ! I know what is my problel now ... ( front gangner )
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I've have RUF on my 88 with a D60 and 39 reds. I'm getting alot of axle wrap with this setup. Two guys we wheel with are running the same setup but both have 5" TG which aren't wrapping as much. Probably gonna try an after spring untill we do an auto ecobox D300 and 4 link swap.
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