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Old 10-15-2004, 12:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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SAS hanger pics and dimensions..... Ultimate SAS thread...

Ok, I was browsing through the FAQ and noticed there is only one link for the SAS hangers and writing about wanting a thread with alot of pics.. So lets start make one. Also there is mention of an Ultimate SAS thread.

I will be fabbing my own soon and have been wanting to post asking for what measurements you guys had used to make your own. SO why dont we kill two birds with one stone and make a good post with pics that can be added to the FAQ?

I know stock spring perch width is 29". But did you make your front spring eye hole in line with you stock front crossmember, or farther forward and why? I have seen some people use 2x2, 2x3, 2x4, 1x2, etc for the main crossmember. What did you use and why?


So lets see'em!

I'll start by adding the FAQ link and pics/info from that thread:

https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...threadid=76595

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Erik has a great write up on a complete SAS swap including axle info and narrowing info on his site.

http://home.4x4wire.com/erik/4runner/sas/




From Erik's site:
"The dropped front spring hanger crossmember is made of 2 x 2 x .25" square tubing (probably overkill, but it was free). The hangers themselves were cut from 3.5 x 3.5 x .25" square tubing. I also built a receiver hitch into the center since my tow hook was removed to mount the crossmember..
The hangers are 27.5" on center to match the perches on the narrowed axle. Stock straight axle Toyota hangers and perches are 29" on center.

The hangers have a 2" drop built into them (4" from the bottom of the frame) compared to a stock straight axle Toyota, but the distance from the front of the frame is the same, about 2". I also drilled a second set of holes 1" forward of those for more mount options."





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here are pics of mine "HomeGrown Style" the frame was bent in the front. So i cut it out. plated both sides of the frame and the top and bottom, drivers side and passanger side. added the front crossmember and then built some hangers for the leaf springs. this tied everything togther perfect. i ended up moving the front hanger hole 1.5" forward and 1.0" down.



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Old 10-15-2004, 01:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Here are mine in earliy stages:
1" drop
1/4" plated with another piece of 1/4" around the eye and lower portions.
I used 2x2x1/4" square tube to connect them about 1" forward of stock.
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I had 2 hangers made, this one and mine, which is still in the garage.

2x3x1/4wall, 2" drop, 1" forward. Hanger plates are 3/8". Gussets between and inside plates. Also have gussets for the back of the tube to the frame.

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Here what we did on Project Blu: https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=220649


















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I made this drawing for a friend that wanted to make a similar hangar to what I made for my truck.



And here is the original on my truck



I want to go farther forward now, so I'm cutting it off and making a new one with the bolt 1 1/2" forward.

Here's another. This is on Formula Toy #020. I might clearance mine like this one as well.

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here is the one I built main piece is 2x3x3/16 tube and the rest is 3" x 1/4" flat bar. It is drilled for 1" forward and 2" drop (estimate)
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I made mine out of 2x6x.250. I used a chevy spring hanger for the front hanger. The spring bolt sits about the same spot but about 2 inches down. It wasn't an sas just a drop hanger. I can't post pictures though.
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here is a drawing of my sas hanger for a full size chevy d44 swap. the x-member is made out of 2x4x.120 tube. the spring hangers are cut from 3-1/2x 3-1/2x .250 box tube with the hole drilled 2" down from the top.
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Is that Sky's Pitman arm?
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it is and i highly recomend tightening the nut before your first trip out of the shop (think i found the reason for my death woble )
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i found the other drawing for my crossmember/ hanger.

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Question for all you full-width guys that have moved the the springs apart to fit the axle. What do your shackles look like?
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this is a crude drawing of how i did mine.
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Question for all you full-width guys that have moved the the springs apart to fit the axle. What do your shackles look like?
Shackles are hung from allpro tubes originally placed for a regualr AP SAS job. They move the springpack outboard exactly 1.25".



Here's the hanger; all pro hanger cut in the center and spread 2.5", mounted to a 2x2 1/4" wall square tube sub frame protruding 3" beyond the factory crossmember.

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So is 2 7/8" a good inside diameter for the hangers themselves when running toy rears? I see that some of the hangers are 3" ID. I guess what I'm asking is is the inside diameter super critical? I didn't mean to ask anything that has been covered; I'm just trying to figure out how I'm gonna make mine. Thanks
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toy springs are narowwer than the american 2.5" springs so the 2 7/8" hanger is optimal for them, but you couldn't use wider 2.5" springs. If you make the hanger 3" wide you can use eith 2.36" toy springs or 2.5" leafs; you'll just have to shim the busshings with a couple fender washers if you run toy springs.
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Here is mine. I guess the measurements are about the same as everyone elses. the tube is 2" X 1/4" wall square and the hangers are 3/8" X 3" flat stock. The front crossmember and hanger are covered with 1/4" plate to support the winch witch has the rear mounting bolts going through the crossmember

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Ok, so it seems like we have the crossmember/spring mounts covered, any other aspects of the swap that you could post would be helpful.
Choices of axle, frame prep after cutting off the ifs, shackles thru the frame or under? and why, shock hoops or ford towers, anything else you can think of would help this become a true knowledge base. Thanks
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