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Old 08-08-2007, 02:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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5vz swap into an 85 runner

here is another of one of the projects we are starting up on here at ors. we are dropping a 5vz into this gutless (litterally) 85 to usher it up into the big boy motor ranks. befor we start we are gonna be ripping out this cancered out front clip for a pretty one sitting here in our shop and have added a plate to the front brace in preparation for an ors front bumper... we are excited to have you guys (and girls) along on this project. enjoy.
ps. sorry about the rust on the new work... rain = bad
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how gutless do you ask? this gutless...
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pleas be detailed about this so hopfully we can get it into the FAQ (I am correct in this info not being there right ?) i cant seem to find it

this will be a good one to watch
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what trans/ transfercase setup will be put in?
lookin forward to the swap
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how much HP are you plannin on it pushin when your done? turbo? twin turbo? this should be interesting....
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we have been moving along nicely on this little runner. we are busy but we dont neglect it. we pulled the front clip and are putting the cleaned new one back on there shortly. stay tuned
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what trans/ transfercase setup will be put in?
I am also interested in this information.
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for the trani/t-case setup we will be dropppin in a 2000 taco auto with twin 85 t-cases adaped to it
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for the trani/t-case setup we will be dropppin in a 2000 taco auto with twin 85 t-cases adaped to it
Have you had much experiece with the Toyota autos when crawlin? I know most people have had problems with fluid starvation.
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heres some picks of the f-clips side by side to show why we are going with a new one:
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Yes, fluid starvation of the trani could be a problem when taking on extreme angles. This rig isn't intended for that type of wheeling, so the auto fits into the plans of a D.D. and a rock capable rig just fine.

We only know a few people that do extreme wheeling with Toyota auto tranis and have had success. We would also question the reliability with extreme angles. Any fun stories/ comments you all have pertaining to such?
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Experience with Toy auto's? I think 30+ hours back and forth to Wisconsin would constitute experience.

I have had mine standing on the front bumper ready to roof it and on the rear bumper so all I saw was sky. I imagine I will starve my fuel pump before I starve the tranny.

WRD is looking different these days.

Share pics and keep on the progress, eh?
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When you guys are finished making my parts, I will swapping one into my `87 runner




I can't wait! No more 4cylinder lack o power!!
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Experience with Toy auto's? I think 30+ hours back and forth to Wisconsin would constitute experience.

I have had mine standing on the front bumper ready to roof it and on the rear bumper so all I saw was sky. I imagine I will starve my fuel pump before I starve the tranny.
This fine gentleman is one of our customers with a good deal of auto tranny experience. He has seen some extreme angles with good fortune, coupled with endless highway miles. One of the nicer 'runners out there.
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Fine gentleman? You are talking about someone else.

I was talking about the time you came out to rescue the rig. That qualifies as a humorous auto experience.

Get'er done!
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We just finished mounting the battery tray on the front clip over the weekend. After that we sprayed the whole thing down with some bed liner for durrbility and longetivity... not to mention it gives the engine bay a clean look as well. Stay tuned: more coming soon!
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We have more updates on the 4Runner! Over the past weekend we stripped the firewall bare of its bedliner paint job, and any one that has done the same knows, it was a job and a half. with that done we placed our new F-clip on and re-spot welded it using the same welds for cleanliness. After that we re lined it. Now the only hurdle between the crossover stearing is to apply seam sealant to the seam and to spray it with bedliner.
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It is time for another update on our 3.4 swap into the 1985 4Runner! Since you have last heard we have finished painting, sealing and routing/attaching the wiring to and through the clip. we are really happy with how the project is coming along, although being shorthanded and busy these past few weeks and not being able to dedicate more time to it. Here are more pictures for you all, hope you enjoy them!
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I've had nothing but success with my 3.4 auto. 218k miles on it and its been on its side still driving a couple times. Lots of sky seen out of the front windshield as well.
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what spray-on bedliner are you using? eager to see more of this project.
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what spray-on bedliner are you using? eager to see more of this project.
- We use Duplicolor spray on undercoating... X-over steering coming VERY SOON!!!
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After finishing the front clip it was on to Marlin Crawler's crossover steering kit our customer wanted to convert to. This would have been much harder than it was if the engine had already had been in, so we did it before we are putting the engine in. We first cut off his old power steering box mount, then ground and buffed it down. First we had to remove the old steering system. With that removed, we preloaded the bearings then bolted up the Marlin knuckles (which were not only prettier, but twice as thick too). Then we installed and adjusted the tie rod, followed by the draglink. After that we welded on the stout frame plates and bolt holes so it could accept an ifs steering box. After everything was checked the box was removed and everything was painted black to match the rest of the engine bay. The list of prep work before the engine gets dropped in is getting smaller and smaller. Till next time, let these pics hold you all over.
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Already put two of these in 85 4 runners myself, the frames suck on the solid axle trucks, the axle bump in the frame above the axle makes it hard to work on the engine and motor mounts compared to an ifs truck, You need one 3.0 block mount on one side, and one 3.4 block mount on the other, I took the factory mounts and cut them off the frame and just modified them and welded them back in, I recomend a 3.0 2wd oil pan, great steering clearance for the crossover steering, a taco oil pan works too but the 3.0 pan is thinner at the front (more clearance) and since no solid axle runners had v6's you need to add a filter inline, one of mine I had to add pump lines tank all the efi crap, very long project, that one has the auto in it, just waiting to get enough money to hook both gear drive cases together and get the inchworm adapter.
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Sorry for the long wait between updates. Our supliers were back-ordered on some parts that were vital to progress on this project. We have just got the dual t-cases assembled and mounted to the A340 auto transmission. We used a Marlin R-10 transmission adapter which allows us to clock both cases 10 degrees for some additional front output and drive shaft ground clearance. This will all be mounted with a R-10 x-member from Front Range.

We fully rebuilt, cleaned, and resealed both transfer cases. Here is what you are looking at:
-A340 (01 Tacoma)
-Marlin trans adapter with R10 (rotated 10 degrees) option
-gear driven reduction box w/ 2.28 gears and Marlin 23 spline inputs shaft
-MC07 standard rotation adapter
-gear driven transfer case w/ Marlin 23 spline input and 2.28 gears

There are lower gearing options but we think this will work very well behind the auto and an engine w/ power.









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Nicely done! Here's to newbies finding this information!

That's good info about the SA frames being harder to use than the IFS rigs.
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