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Old 09-22-2019, 10:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone know what group of relatively stock Toyota Land Cruiser wagons was running Deer Valley Yesterday? There were likely 12 to 18 rigs, most newer cruisers. Saw one JL. They were all parked off in the meadow in Deer Valley about 3 pm yesterday. They had to drive over rocks and logs that were meant to keep people out of there. I got one picture as we passed, most are not in the picture

There were way more of them then us, so we did not confront them (should have, wife said no). That said, they need an educating. It is not all about them...Ö
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Old 09-23-2019, 12:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Anyone know what group of relatively stock Toyota Land Cruiser wagons was running Deer Valley Yesterday? There were likely 12 to 18 rigs, most newer cruisers. Saw one JL. They were all parked off in the meadow in Deer Valley about 3 pm yesterday. They had to drive over rocks and logs that were meant to keep people out of there. I got one picture as we passed, most are not in the picture

There were way more of them then us, so we did not confront them (should have, wife said no). That said, they need an educating. It is not all about them...Ö
Oy! post some pics.
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Group has been located via FJ80 FB posts and have been educated. All good, we now have more guardians of our trails.
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Good to hear they were found and educated. Way too many people fought very hard to get that trail reopened.
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good news!
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This was handled the proper way.

Good job OP, those who helped, & those that have been educated.
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Good to hear they were found and educated. Way too many people fought very hard to get that trail reopened.
This!!! Is sad to see the ease of getting to the trail these days. People donít learn to tread lightly.

I have pics of tire marks in the meadow, too and from the campsite at the second creek crossing. Logs were placed to block traffic, looks like they were moved. Very disappointing
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Old 09-30-2019, 04:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Some dummy driving on the old route then dropped into the bank of creek and out to the far left campsite at 2nd creek crossing. Grass was well matted down and bank of creek had multiple tire tracks. A few passes or multiple vehicles...

This was take Aug 31 but when I was there Aug 13 I saw quad tracks on that old route as well and a motorcycle track
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Old 10-16-2019, 08:06 PM   #9 (permalink)
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No need for posting pictures.

Just describe it with your words and let it remain inadmissable hearsay.
Posting pics is ammo for greenies and they can print it and submit it at any hearing where people in power see it with their own eyes.

Thanks for caring, but let's stay smart about it and not do their work for them.
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