Harlan: Black Mountain Offroad Adventure Area Q&A

[Craig_C]

Originally Posted by toyotanuts

Ran grasshopper again. Know one has been running it. To far out I think.

Why don't they cut new trail closer, like around middle rock garden etc?


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Where is grasshopper?

Also saw on FB there's a new trail off 10 on the way up to white tail

[toyotanuts]

Think it right here at my pin.
You go around sharp right turn and it goes up hill on the right. Follow flags hanging from trees.

It not a very good trial. It need to be dug up and it might get better. Shoope and our club cut it years ago and nothing happened after that. Little drive to get to.
I wish they would cut more around middle rock garden etc. lots of good stuff around it.


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[Craig_C]

Yeah that's farther out than we normally go. I saw on FB there's a new trail at the 10/11 intersection.

Also, how did you get a map that you can drop a pin on??

[toyotanuts]

Maplets app
Don't work don there at Harlan but Windrock, Hatfield, Rausch, etc it works great. Follows you as you move.

Hit the pin at the bottom of the screen.



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[toyotanuts]

Where on Facebook did you see another trail?


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[Craig_C]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/8369...4489473946810/

[Keydet15]

Apparently the lease of a coal mine on the mountain has run out and the city has agreed to cut more trails on it. Word is this addition of trails will have more miles than the current existing park. They were telling us that it is going to be very steep where they are cutting new trails.

[mufflerbearing]

We are headed down the weekend of sept 30th if anyone is interested in running some trails.

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[11cherokee]

I'll go. My steering sucks though.

[RebelK25]

Anyone still planning to go that first weekend in October? Looking to meet up with a few others to wheel with. Will be heading down very early on Oct 1, wheeling on Oct 1 & 2.

[mufflerbearing]

Originally Posted by RebelK25

Anyone still planning to go that first weekend in October? Looking to meet up with a few others to wheel with. Will be heading down very early on Oct 1, wheeling on Oct 1 & 2.

Yes we'll be there

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[RebelK25]

Originally Posted by mufflerbearing

Yes we'll be there

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[GONOVRIT]

Any news or updates on the new property?

[makemeknowit]

I'm considering a trip to Harlan this July 4th. I have a 4 day weekend. I wouldn't get there til close to midnight Friday. I've never been, would be primitive camping. Wheel Sat, Sun, Monday, leave Tue morning. Likely be coming alone so I'd like to hook up with some folks with knowledge of the place who aren't afraid of difficult trails. I have an Ftoy, 2.28/4.7, 39" reds. Thanks for any and all suggestions/help.

[twoslo4five0]

Originally Posted by makemeknowit

I'm considering a trip to Harlan this July 4th. I have a 4 day weekend. I wouldn't get there til close to midnight Friday. I've never been, would be primitive camping. Wheel Sat, Sun, Monday, leave Tue morning. Likely be coming alone so I'd like to hook up with some folks with knowledge of the place who aren't afraid of difficult trails. I have an Ftoy, 2.28/4.7, 39" reds. Thanks for any and all suggestions/help.

If your wanting to primitive camp, you can either drag your trailer up from everts to coyote camp or unload and take all your stuff to black bear camp. Coyote camp may be a little loud with a few trails being right there, black bear camp is a little quieter with only one being there. You can also stay in town (I would suggest everts side) at north or south everts camp ground for little to nothing. Short drive (3 miles) to trail head. I personally have never stayed on the putney side, I went and look at the campground over there one time and it was SO far away from the good trails and FOOD (lol) that I keep my butt in evarts. Plus then I'm close to the trailer. Last year I pulled my trailer up to coyote campground to rescue one of the rigs in our group that broke on the rail bed exit to the right, which has gotten to be very bad.

[makemeknowit]

Originally Posted by twoslo4five0

If your wanting to primitive camp, you can either drag your trailer up from everts to coyote camp or unload and take all your stuff to black bear camp.

So at these campgrounds you can't leave your tow rig/trailer? If not then where do you park them?

[twoslo4five0]

Yes you. An leave your truck and trailer at them, though they are in the trail. It would be a hard drive to get a truck and trailer up to black bear campground but coyete wouldn't be too bad, just remember they are on the trail so make sure to lock your stuff up

[makemeknowit]

Originally Posted by twoslo4five0

Yes you. An leave your truck and trailer at them, though they are in the trail. It would be a hard drive to get a truck and trailer up to black bear campground but coyete wouldn't be too bad, just remember they are on the trail so make sure to lock your stuff up

Then maybe I need to stay at a different campground then. I don't want to have to "wheel" the truck/trailer/rig to the camping spot. Are Sycamore, Beech Creek and Creekside the same as far as getting to them with truck/trailer?

[twoslo4five0]

Im not familiar with them. I would suggest staying at south or north evarts, south if you want to be closer to food and restaurants, north if you want to be closer to the trail head. You will need to call to reserve a campsite. From evarts you can easily hit 10 + trails right there and fill a morning, if not a whole day.

https://www.evartskentucky.com/rv-parks---campgrounds


If you want to stay over on the putney side, here is the campground over there. Nice part about being over there is the trail head connects to the campground, bad part is your not close to anything including the majority of the trails. A long way back as well if you broke on railbed, pinball, lower rock garden, cream puff, ect.

Harlan County Campgrounds

[phi564]

Originally Posted by makemeknowit

I'm considering a trip to Harlan this July 4th. I have a 4 day weekend. I wouldn't get there til close to midnight Friday. I've never been, would be primitive camping. Wheel Sat, Sun, Monday, leave Tue morning. Likely be coming alone so I'd like to hook up with some folks with knowledge of the place who aren't afraid of difficult trails. I have an Ftoy, 2.28/4.7, 39" reds. Thanks for any and all suggestions/help.

Stay at Sycamore Campground or Creek Side Campground. On the Evarts side, when you come up Bailey Creek Rd. The office/ general store/ check in will be on your left. Keep going strait onto the gravel main trail and both campgrounds are just off the main trail on the right. Sycamore would be my first choice and will be the first campground you will come to. Creek side is a little further up the main trail. I can get you a picture of the map if it will help you.

[mufflerbearing]

Originally Posted by phi564

Stay at Sycamore Campground or Creek Side Campground. On the Evarts side, when you come up Bailey Creek Rd. The office/ general store/ check in will be on your left. Keep going strait onto the gravel main trail and both campgrounds are just off the main trail on the right. Sycamore would be my first choice and will be the first campground you will come to. Creek side is a little further up the main trail. I can get you a picture of the map if it will help you.

X2 on Sycamore, we camped last year, its quiet and close to alot of good trails.

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[twoslo4five0]

Are these the 2 trails past the main entrance on the evarts side? Like headed up white tail trail? Ive never stayed there but always wondered. What happens if you get there in the middle of the night, like the OP was asking about?

EDIT- Here is a quick map I found but doesn't show creekside. Some how last year I made a wrong turn and ended up at copperhead camp, you could tell no one is ever over that way lol.

http://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/t...3/map_48ae.htm

[phi564]

Originally Posted by twoslo4five0

Are these the 2 trails past the main entrance on the evarts side? Like headed up white tail trail? Ive never stayed there but always wondered. What happens if you get there in the middle of the night, like the OP was asking about?

EDIT- Here is a quick map I found but doesn't show creekside. Some how last year I made a wrong turn and ended up at copperhead camp, you could tell no one is ever over that way lol.

Black Mountain Off-Road Adventure Area - Kentucky Motorcycle and ATV Trail Map for Evarts, KY

Took a pic of the map I have. I think that link is dated? or there is some misinformation.



you can see the two campgrounds.

[twoslo4five0]

How much was camping at those 2 and what kind of hook ups are available? shower house, ect?

[RCOR]

Hook ups are going to be at the North and South Evarts RV park in town. That's also where the shower houses are. Just a mile or so of pavement from there to the trailhead. Just no booze cruising if you're staying in town. You can use the shower houses if you stay at the Sycamore campground, just have to drive down to them. Id recommend the South campground because the other seems to always be packed.

Putney has everything right there, hookups, shower house, even a welder on site. But....you cant ride to the store for gas and food (unless you are licensed for the road). They do sell ice and sometimes have a food vendor on site. The trail from Putney to the trail system is steep and narrow and can be intimidating for less experienced.