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Old 11-18-2008, 09:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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M109A1 - Easily convert to a military RV!

This truck is basically a Deuce with a shop van on it.
1963 Kaiser M109A1 (updated to at least A2 status, maybe A3).
Truck weighs in at 15,881 lbs empty, with a payload of 5,000 lbs.
Current mileage is 27,819 miles! I would imagine that there are even fewer of those miles on this motor, but cannot guess how many exactly.
Picked this truck up for my dad to use as a radio shack, and now he is second guessing his purchase.
Buy it for $5,000 obo, and make his (and mine....) life a bit easier.
This was recently purchased from a government auction. Last used by the NG about a year ago.
I even talked to the last NCO it was assigned to! She loved the truck and wished it didn't have to go away.
The motor is a LDT-465-1D motor with the Whistler turbo. Date on the motor is 1986!
The vinyl cab top is NEW.
I drove this truck home. About 360 miles! It ran great, stopped well, and was an easy drive home.
The military did a service on the truck before it was put up to auction, so there isn't much needed on this truck.
The tires are all in GREAT shape. All lights function as normal.
The box on the back is wired for 24v AND 120v (has the extension cord on the outside tucked into it's own bag!)
It even has an A/C unit in it. No idea whether it works or not, haven't tried it.
Inside has a two tables and a cabinet.
All the windows in the box look to be in good shape.
No noticeable leaks. And it was raining the entire trip home with this thing.

Personally I would like to keep it. But I already have three other deuces sitting. Maybe I can sell one of those and buy this off of him.

Paperwork. I will have this truck titled in CA with Historic Vehicle plates.
HV plates mean you DO NOT PAY the weight fees!!! This really saves on the yearly cost of owning one of these!
I should have the title in a couple months (holidays is hard to plan on how long it will take DMV to get to it. HV plates are processed in Sacramento. So it's a gamble on time).
This truck is a multifuel diesel. I am running one of my others with 80% used motor oil and 20% gas! That means I only have to pay for 10 gallons of gasoline to fill up a 50 gallon fuel tank! $25 for 50 gallons = 50 CENTS a gallon! Almost makes you want to drive one of these as your daily!
MPG got down to around 7 mpg when I was fighting a bad headwind the last 70 or so miles coming home.
I was cruising around 55 mph or so.
If you slow down some, your mileage will go up to around 10 mpg (getting 11+mpg in my other deuce).
Ask any questions you have.
I live about 20 miles west of Yreka CA. Which is on I-5 near the Oregon border.
I feel confident this truck can easily drive home anywhere you want it to! I know I did!
Once again, $5,000 obo.





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Old 11-21-2008, 11:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 11-21-2008, 11:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd love to have it if I had some where to put it. Great price.

BTW-- That's an A2, A3s were the dueces made in the late 80s w/Cat engines. They bring the suck.
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Old 11-21-2008, 06:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Not really on the A3 part, that is just for the M35A3 that got the Cat 3116 engine.
The M109A3 still had the multifuel engines.
This one has the A1 on the dash, but it has to be at least an A2 because of the exhaust being verticle (unlike the older ones that came out between the rear tires).

I feel the price is very good considering the newer motor, and how well it handles and the overall shape that it's in. I was keeping the price lower because times are rough right now, and I would like to move this truck.
Otherwise I might take the box off and bob the truck.
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Old 12-03-2008, 11:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Bump, truck starts and runs nice! I go out and fire it up at least once a week, and it fires right off, even in the 20s like it has been here lately!
Not even using the intake heater, just hitting the start button!
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Any idea what the tow cap is on one of these?


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Old 12-28-2008, 10:00 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Listed capacity is 10,000 lbs towed.

I have seen people pulling a lot more weight then that with Deuces, but it will not be a race horse like most modern diesels are.

I towed a second deuce with my first deuce, and it did fairly well. 13k deuce pulling another 13k deuce. Not winning any races, but slow and steady will get you there.
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Oh, and if someone doesn't want the box on it, we can work a deal for the truck without the box as well.
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Not to be a wise guy, but on a M35, the payload is 5 tons, on the highway, 2.5# off-road. There will be a plate on your dah that verifies this.
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Old 12-28-2008, 01:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Not to be a wise guy, but on a M35, the payload is 5 tons, on the highway, 2.5# off-road. There will be a plate on your dah that verifies this.
15,881 lbs empty, with a payload of 5,000 lbs for 20,881 lbs.
These are NOT rated the same because the box on this weighs 2,000 lbs more then the bed on a deuce.
It only shows the off road weights for the truck. The on road stuff is blank.
The trailer rating shows 6,000 lbs off road and 10,000 lbs on road.

If you go by the other trucks which this shares the same chassis with (the M35A2), then the gross would be 23,030 lbs gross for on road, plus the 10,000 lbs for a trailer.
I think they leave the on road numbers blank to cover their butts with the taller box on the M109 trucks.
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Old 01-06-2009, 10:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Up for the new year!
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:08 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Nice truck and description. Like many others I don't currently have the room. That will likely change for me sometime this year. I'm tired of being land locked in the land of busy bodies.

What is your understanding of the cutoff year for the historical plates in CA? I think I read 67 somewhere. Is it a fixed year or is it a floating 30 years or something?
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Actually, it's only 22 or 25 years old.

BUT, it must be of historical interest.
A retired military vehicle fits this description.
I think the registration will only be either 20 something or 50 something a year!
Not sure what the recurring costs are. I paid a number of different fees to get the paperwork going. Including the CHP coming out to inspect the VIN and other info.

As I have found out the hard way, getting the paperwork BACK from DMV down in Sacramento can be a real PITA. Nothing I can do to speed it up. I have two trucks that I have been waiting on for a couple months now!
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Yes, good ole subjective non-performing, non-accountable (or so slowly it doesn't mean much) government. I wonder what their definition of historical interest includes?
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According to DMV, there are VERY FEW things that meet it.
BUT, if you read on the websites, you can see a few more things that actually qualify.
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Ok, getting closer to taking the box off the back and making this into a Bobbed truck.
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Exactly what I've been looking for. PM sent.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:26 PM   #19 (permalink)
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SOLD!

Truck drove away this afternoon.
Jesse, hope the trip back was uneventful and safe.
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Thanks again Ed! The trip back up to Bend went great. No problems whatsoever with the truck. Going to try to title it today and after I'm going to rip into it as soon as I finish-up the sheetmetal bedwork in my Tacoma this weekend.
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