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The first annual Show-Me 4x4 Truck Fest took place June 23rd, 2001 in Montgomery City, MO. The event consisted of my portion (Top Mud
Challenge IV), monster truck exhibitions, monster truck rides, & 4x4 show N shine. Due to the overwhelming number of competition mud
racers (142 vehicles) we're stretching the event over two days in 2002 (this is stop #8 of the Ultimate Tour <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">). All of the shallow "Fast Track" mud racing will take place Saturday June 22nd & the deep "Pit" classes will run Sunday June 23rd. Looking for additional ways to make the crowd come for both days so day 2 will MOST LIKELY also feature tough truck racing.

BUT, the promoter is ALSO considering bringing in some rocks for a closed course competition rock crawl!! He's considering it very seriously.

Thought maybe y'all would want to lobby in favor of that. So, you can comment here, or e-mail me at [email protected] Either way, I'll forward your comments on to the promoter.

The mud, show-n-shine, & tough truck competitions will be open to any 4x4, so don't think you have to be just spectators even if the rock crawl doesn't take place But, I think we can all agree that it would be nice to add the rock crawl element to the overall event!

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Originally posted by CheaseMuddin:
<STRONG>I think a rockcrawl would be a good idea because you'd have a larger variety of 4x4 activities, and the event may therefore draw a larger crowd.</STRONG>
That's the thought. Over the years, I've found that the # of spectators is usually somewhat in proportion to the # of participants. 142 competition machines this year meant 4,700 spectators. Given the fact that this town only has 2,200 permanent residents, not too shabby. But, it's gonna be tough to get more folks there w/o drawing some in from other areas. So, that's what we hope the rock crawl & tough trucking will do. Plus, the rock crawl adds another dimension if it goes on both days. Since it would be going on at the same time as the mud race, folks won't be able to watch BOTH all that close. So, the hope is that they'll want to come back for the second day.....and pay for a $econd admi$$ion <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">


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add rocks <IMG SRC="smilies/glasses.gif" border="0">, subtract show-n-shine <IMG SRC="smilies/sleep.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by Cutter:
<STRONG>add rocks <IMG SRC="smilies/glasses.gif" border="0">, subtract show-n-shine <IMG SRC="smilies/sleep.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Show N Shine is a profit center. Entry fees add up to more than trophy cost. Then you add in the admissions paid by their riders & it doesn't make a lot of sense to cut that out. Besides, people DO like shiny trucks. Take a look at the Indy Jamboree. They've got mud, tough trucks, monsters, and now rocks. But, most participants & spectators spend more time looking at show trucks than any other activity.

Just a matter of $$ & sense. We know the show n shine will pay for itself. We know the mud will do the same. I'm not convinced on the monsters (VERY expensive & for just a few minutes a day), but the promoter likes 'em. The only Q is will the rocks pay for themselves. We KNOW it'll bring more participants. We THINK it'll bring more spectators. But, will it bring ENOUGH to justify the cost of additional insurance & extra workers, and more significantly, the expense of setting up the course?

Don't know <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

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Do you have room to do the crawl contest in the infield? That would be cool. 2 races at once, viewed simultaneously by all.
 

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Originally posted by Screwzer:
<STRONG>Do you have room to do the crawl contest in the infield? That would be cool. 2 races at once, viewed simultaneously by all.</STRONG>
Unfortunately, no. The Rock Crawl would have to be in one of the adjacent fields, probably just to one side of where the spectators enter the grounds. There are several sets of portable bleachers that can be dragged over there. But, you wouldn't be able to sit in one place to watch mud & rocks at the same time. Here's a pretty good shot of the main bleachers:



They run close to 600' on one side, and as you can see, a couple sections are taller than others. Just 2 or 3 tall sections on the other side (where the racers sit). The portables aren't nearly as tall unfortunately. 6 or 8 rows I think.

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'Show N Shine is a profit center.' than put up some tables and sell amway and avon <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> maybe a lot of people show up and hang out in the show thing 'cuz you have it....doesn't make me show up. who are you trying to attract? maybe add some lowriders, i hear they attract crowds too. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
bet this guy wins a trophy


[ 10-25-2001: Message edited by: Cutter ]
 

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Originally posted by Cutter:
<STRONG>maybe a lot of people show up and hang out in the show thing 'cuz you have it....doesn't make me show up. </STRONG>
That's why we want some EXTRA things <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"><STRONG>
who are you trying to attract?

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EVERYONE!


Let me ask you this much, would you boycott a rock crawling event if there also happened to be a show n shine going on at the same time? The show n shine is there because it DOES bring in extra spectators, it DOES bring in extra participants, and it costs damn near nothing. The rock crawl WILL bring in more participants, WILL bring in more spectators, but will AL$0 co$t a lot.

It's not a question of removing show n shine in favor of rocks. There is enough space for both. The question is, will the rocks bring in ENOUGH extra folks to justify the expense. And that's really the only question. There were $41,000 in expenses at last year's event. These things aren't cheap to do. You want to do a bunch of cool stuff, but you also have to remember it's a business.

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good points Tex. The rocks might make me come, I've been to a truck jamboree before and it was a waste of time, those show trucks just don't cut it for me. And the burn-out competition.... <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">
 
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