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Ok so I'm going to coil the front end of my toy to try to match or come close to the articulation of the rear. Can't decide whether or not to go with a 3 link or with a 4 link. What are the advantages of both? Right now I am running aerostar coils in the rear and I am pondering eb coils in the front. Anyone know of a soft coil to run? Aerostars in the front would be killer, waaaay to soft.
 

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have not seen a coiled front end that i like yet.leaf springs up front seem to be the ticket
 

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Bigfeck is using some sort of Wild Horses coils in the front of his toy. You might want to ask what he's using and how he likes it. [email protected] BTW- 3 link with a panhard bar seems to be the hot ticket.
 

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Well I love my 4 linked Aerostar coiled Willys front and rear end. It has a Chevy V6 in it so it might be close to weight of the Toyota. It is very soft, but that is the best part about it all.



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Originally posted by camo:
<STRONG>have not seen a coiled front end that i like yet.leaf springs up front seem to be the ticket</STRONG>
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!! SURE YOU HAVE!!!!


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so tell me you guys how well do you like those soft coils up front on a off camber downhill? (with a big cliff on the side)

ya they flex like mad and handle high speed whoops like no other but i will trade those qualitys for stability.
 

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Well, I haven't been in the situation you described yet since this Rubicon trip was my first run in the rig other than Hollister. If the situation you describe is that much of a pucker factor, I will most likely bust out my center mounted winch (once I get it back from Randy) to aid in a situation like that. So far, I really like the setup. Time will tell of course if I start not liking it. Despite its visual look of instability, it doesn't feel that way when driving in it.

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Originally posted by camo:
[QB]so tell me you guys how well do you like those soft coils up front on a off camber downhill? (with a big cliff on the side)

I run very soft coils on my TJ with the swaybars thrown in the trash can....used to be kinda spooky on those side hills, but I went with Rancho 9000's w/ in cab controls so I can firm up the down hill side and soften up the uphill side. And just leave 'em soft for all the other times...
 

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I'm running a 4 bar-Vlink front and rear with coil-overs and it handles like a big quadrunner, the harder I hit it, the better it likes it. I'll never go back to leaves on this rig.
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Originally posted by camo:
<STRONG>so tell me you guys how well do you like those soft coils up front on a off camber downhill? (with a big cliff on the side)

ya they flex like mad and handle high speed whoops like no other but i will trade those qualitys for stability.</STRONG>
Your always gonna have trade-offs, You asked for a good coil set-up, if you wanted stiff, just put stiff coils up front, a soft leaf sprung front will act bad off camber downhill also!!! I personally did the coils for the improved approach angle.
 

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I run very soft coils on my TJ with the swaybars thrown in the trash can....used to be kinda spooky on those side hills, but I went with Rancho 9000's w/ in cab controls so I can firm up the down hill side and soften up the uphill side. And just leave 'em soft for all the other times...Ummm... so you run across sidehill sections FAST? It's not like you've charged 'em with air, they'll still just dampen dynamic movement... a long, slow lean will compress the downhill side of your rig still...

I'm with Camo. I haven't seen all that many all-coil rigs that work all that great off the ramp. Leaf springs are low tech, but generally more predictable.

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You are missing the point, a coil with the same spring rate will act very similar to a leaf the the same spring rate. You just think they are more unstable because everyone that puts coils on their rig goes for the ultra soft springs! With leaves you can not go ultra soft because you loose axle control.
 

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Take one more look at the front spring track on my FJ.... quite a bit wider than the stock leaf set-up... that has the word "Stability" written all over it!!! But yes I do have ultra soft spring on it right now, still trying to find suitable rates.
 

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Thats one of the great things about the 2 spring coil-over setups, U can change one or both spring rates in 15 min. my jeep weighs about 4100 equal ft/rear and I'm running 450 lb fronts and 350 lb rears, it could use a little more rear spring for baja work, maybe 350/400 would be best, but for rocks it works great, if I hammer it into a wall it will just start to bottom. It is too stiff to ramp well, but I never got too concerned about ramps anyway.
 

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This does look scarry soft, but I agree nothing wrong with coils it is just possible to be to soft for some situations
 

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Sorry, don't buy it. I have to agree with Ant.

Either way whatever theory is, I am very happy with my setup right now. VERY HAPPY. Whether technically right or wrong, it works well for my driving style right now.

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if your happy i'm happy.

no one setup is gonna be the end all solution. i like front leafs and rear 3 or 4 link. dosen't make it right or wrong. to each his own.
 

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i have a 4 link in the front and rear of my early bronco and love it.
(you can see it here)
http://w3.one.net/~marc/broncohio/tech/fourlink.html

and just as camo said the down hill was a little spooky so i run a little stiffer coil in the front. it helps a lot. and yes i drive it on the road 65+ to work and to get icecream.

i use to think i got better articulation with the soft coils but i didn't. just a real shitty ride on the street. don't worry about going stiffer. it helps every thing. and it does not hurt the flex one bit. also for the guy that runs his 9000s on the light setting, when you say you turn the up hill side to the lightest setting, why? first of all it will let the body bounce around, secound the 9000s are not 100% adjustable, you can not adjust the rebound. it never changes from the factiory only the compression.

what i'm trying to say is don't go for the softest suspension, try the firmer side, you'll like it, it gives much more stabilaty at slow and faster speeds and does not hurt the flex.
trust me you will be glad you did.
sorry for the spelling, my wifes not here to yell at me...
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if your happy i'm happy.
no one setup is gonna be the end all solution. i like front leafs and rear 3 or 4 link. dosen't make it right or wrong. to each his own.
Right on with that one Camo.

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Dirtrod,
what type of coil overs you runnin? i like the Kings, but do not have them. seems like good people and the price is middle of the road. some day i'll have a set can you give any pointer? things to ask for, external reservoirs, etc...

i'm thinking the 14 inch travel for the front and external bypass for the rear 1/4 elliptic.
thanks
steelman
 
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