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Oh, Geiiiiiiiiiiger... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

As with everyone else, I don't want to lift my truck, but I do want bigger tires. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Anyway, do you know if I'll have to do your little "firewall tubbing" trick to run 37s on an (ex)IFS Runner with your 4" springs? I'm not opposed to doing a little cutting & welding, or drilling my perches to move the axle forward another inch or two.

Is the steering going to be the cheif concern I have when pushing the front axle forward? (Well, that and moving the axle out from under the center pin <IMG SRC="smilies/idea.gif" border="0">.)

I get the impression that the 4" spring was designed for 35's... correct?

Hell, I'm gonna repaint the truck anyway, so why not take a couple pounds off this tubby bitch while I'm at it?

Anyway... thanks for the help. I'm sold on the 37" radials, and I can't afford the 37" MT/Rs to replace my current 33" Goodyears, so that is how I think I'm going to go.</font>

[ 11-01-2001: Message edited by: Yota-San ]
 

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I'm going with 5.5 AP rears and 44044's front on my 86 runner. I plan to run 36" TSL or SX's and I'll probably take a sawzall to the fenders, or a 2" BL. A sawzall would be funner <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> and the rust will be history too
 

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Originally posted by Bones:
<STRONG>I'm going with 5.5 AP rears and 44044's front on my 86 runner.</STRONG>
<font color="yellow">I already stated that I don't want to go that high. I'd rather do the firewall thing Chris did on his Trail Toy. I'm just wondering if it's *nessecary* on a later model truck than his is, with the axle as far forward as I can get it. But thanks for the help, Bones.

"But I don't WANNA hack my fenders!"... Wait - I'm not on 4x4wire. Yes I do.

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The 4" springs were origionaly made with 33's in mind and the 5"s were made for 35's. After switching to 37's and 38's the trucks were just too tall. So we cut the fenders out and go with the 4" springs.

We still sell both the 4" and 5" but we run the 4" springs on our truck now and recommend them for upto 37's. Yes the firewall mod will be needed to make the 37's fit but is better than going too high.


I have not done this but it's something I have been thinking about, if you could move the cab back on the frame 2" and cut the fire wall and a 3" - 4" lift, then there might be room for 40's
 

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I have been told you can run 44044's with the shackle in the front and get 4 inches. And with this clear 36's.

Mike.
 

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Well, a front shackle will make the tire move forward on compression, so that makes sense.

But I need to go into the shop on friday with an IFS, and drive it out sunday night with a solid axle... so "tried and proven" are what I'm going with, so the AllPro kit is definitely my bag, baby.</font>
 

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Originally posted by Yota-San:
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But I need to go into the shop on friday with an IFS, and drive it out sunday night with a solid axle... so "tried and proven" are what I'm going with, so the AllPro kit is definitely my bag, baby.</font></STRONG>

I hear that, my brother. That is the only reason I am not looking at IFS rigs, and only 85 runners. Can't have downtime, when it is your only commuter.

When are you doing it?
 

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i have done the fire wall mod and it is easy to do.
 

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Originally posted by camo:
<STRONG>i have done the fire wall mod and it is easy to do.</STRONG>
How intrusive is that mod on foot room? I've also been thinking about moving the cab back a couple inches.
 

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Originally posted by 333:
<STRONG>How intrusive is that mod on foot room? I've also been thinking about moving the cab back a couple inches.</STRONG>
It's not a problem, after a few days driving you don't even notice it's different.
 

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Originally posted by Chris Geiger:
<STRONG>..if you could move the cab back on the frame 2" and cut the fire wall and a 3" - 4" lift, then there might be room for 40's</STRONG>
That's a helluvan idea <IMG SRC="smilies/idea.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/idea.gif" border="0">

I like it <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by camo:
<STRONG>i have done the fire wall mod and it is easy to do.</STRONG>
<font color="yellow">I ain't afraid to go hacking around on it. Any change to play with the sawzall is fun in my book. I've even got a set of ultra-fine tooth metal cutting blades for the fenders waiting in the toolbox. I can heartily recommend the Torch series of sawzall blades. I cut through 8 5/8" Gr.8 U-Bolts with one before it finally bit the dust!

As long as I don't gotta touch the drivers door. It's the only virgin sheetmetal I've got left. <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0"> </font>

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I'm wondering about the visible cutting on the fender(not on the floorboard, cant see it, who cares!!!), I got stupid earlier in my four wheelin hobby (2 years ago) and painted (yes I know, you dont even need to say it!!!) it and added Bushwacker flares, so, as not to destroy its appearance until the Runner actually gets some real rock rash??? I actually drive this thing almost everyday too, so anybody got any pics of this on the 85 on up body style??
 

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how bad will the rubbing be with 37's and fiberglass fenders without the firewall mod? i plan on NOT doing this because of kick panel speakers. the truck is an 86 4runner. i guess i should mention that i'm thinking about running 6" lift spring to settle around 5+ (i hope) with no body lift.

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BAD! im burying 35-12.5's into the firewall now and i have a 2 inch bodylift in addition to the 4 inch springs...just bought a couple of sawzall blades for the firewall and a slight fender trimmin...
 

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pics pics...

I have a drop front hanger with 44044's, axle moved forward an inch or two, 2" BL and sledgehammer to the cab big time and my 35's rub pretty good!



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Originally posted by Brandon:
<STRONG>pics pics...

I have a drop front hanger with 44044's, axle moved forward an inch or two, 2" BL and sledgehammer to the cab big time and my 35's rub pretty good!</STRONG>
wow, thats gotta be at least 7-8 inches of lift plus the hanger/shackle length??
 

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Originally posted by Brandon:
<STRONG>pics pics...

I have a drop front hanger with 44044's, axle moved forward an inch or two, 2" BL and sledgehammer to the cab big time and my 35's rub pretty good!</STRONG>
Damn!! I'm doing the same without the BL, and plan on 36" SX's. Maybe I will stick with my 33" TSL's for a while first?
 

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Strange... I think I could run 37's w/o rubbing right now... maybe not..

2" body lift, ~4" suspension, axle forward 2", 35" SSRs, on 15x8 (3.5 back spacing) and have ZERO rubbing. Only mod to firewall is hammered seem.

Plan on moving the axle forward another inch when I build my drop hanger this winter, but it's mostly for shackle angle and the "helluvit"..

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Originally posted by Yota-San:
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Originally posted by Bones:
[qb]I'm going with 5.5 AP rears and 44044's front on my 86 runner.</STRONG>
<font color="yellow">I already stated that I don't want to go that high. I'd rather do the firewall thing Chris did on his Trail Toy. I'm just wondering if it's *nessecary* on a later model truck than his is, with the axle as far forward as I can get it. But thanks for the help, Bones.

"But I don't WANNA hack my fenders!"... Wait - I'm not on 4x4wire. Yes I do.

You don't think I post in these colors for nothing, do you? <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0">
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