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Ok..this is the deal. I'm an ealy bronco nut...but using one for a daily driver in WI is not to much fun. First off the gas is killing me....and parts are never off the shelf. And the air leaks in the thing when winter hits...BRRRRRRRRR. Plus the most hated thing of all...rust...it looks clean..but the rust is really going to show this winter. Now the situation....my sisters friend has a 1984 or 85 4runner...its rust free..from Montana..he lives in MN. He bought it for 1700 or so..had a rebuilt engine (without the rebuild the truck has 200k on the ticker). He just replaced the clutch and slave cylinder. And he babies the thing..it never sees dirt..and is kept inside a garage. Now he plans to sell it...the price will end up being $2500 or so..maybe a little less. Should I sell the bronco and by the 4 runner..or should I just keep the orange beast. What options and things should I look for on the early 4 runners. Whats the MPG on those things anyways..my bronco gets about 9mpg. What type of after market do the runners have..like can you buy canvas tops and stuff for them or what?...how about some sweet pics of some early 4runners for me...help me out here...and be honest.
 

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Well, first off, find out if it has EFI (Toyota's designation for Fuel Injection). In 84 it would have been an option, in 85 it was pretty much standard, but you could still have a carbed one). The EFI models get about 20 extra HP.

Options: If it is an "SR5" model, it will most likely have some extra niceties. There will be chrome (grill, door handles, etc), a full gauge cluster (tach, oil pres, and volts added to the standard speedo, temp, and fuel), tilt steering. Other nice options are the sports bucket seats (7 way adjustable drivers seat, VERY comfy), A/C, cruise, clinometer (a "tiltometer" gauge that site on the dash that also has an altimeter), and a rear heater.

Gas Mileage will very. I'd expect 17 - 23. Some get a little worse, some get a lot better. My truck with the same engine and a lift, big tires, weighing about 4700 lbs gets about 17 in the city.

There are lots of add ons for the 4$unners, from bumpers to soft tops (a couple of manufactures make them).

As for if you should sell your Bronco, that is up to you. The 4Runner won't really be able to tow anything, and they aren't the most powerful trucks on the road (22R carbed is 96 hp, 22RE EFI is 116 hp), but they are comfortable to drive and ride in.

You can see pictures of mine at Wolf's Runner Page.
 

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you have to think about the responsability of adopting friends truck. Even though its not a ford, can you still love it like its yours? My opinion is unless you will love and cherish it, it would be better off with a different mommy and daddy.
 

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Good places to start looking for Toytota stuff:
AFTERMARKET STUFF:
1.All Pro
2. Advanced Offroad Research
3. Marlin Crawler - Crawl Boxes

YOU ASKED ABOUT SOFTTOPS?
1. Can Back (AllPro sells these, too)

GENERAL TOYOTA STUFF:
1. Off-Road.com's Toyota section
2. Outdoorwire Toyota Section
3. Ultimate Toyota Links Page

PLACES TO AVOID:
1. T.A.P. huge unkyard, horrible service - no returns, really.
2. NWOR - Springs that don't flex, sucky customer service
3. Downey (Got Lubricant?)

You should be able to find pretty much everything you need from these places... You didn't mention... Did you WANT to build it, or Daily drive it only? Let me tell you why I bought mine:

* Had a CJ-5 Daily Driver, hated not having cargo space, horrible on road.
* With 35s, 5.29s, lockers, winch, ect... you get 15-20 MPG, and it is still very useable on the highway, steering actually works, rides VERY smooth, ect.
* Holds 4 people and all their luggage on highway (4Runner) offroad 4 people comfortably with tools, heater and AC.
* Far more reliable than my CJ was.
* The only rig I wanted (others were FJ40, scrambler, and Early Bronco) that isn't "collectable" now days. <IMG SRC="smilies/pissed.gif" border="0"></font>
 

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You should steer clear of it! Especially since it is in MN! Let me know how I can go about purchasing it, and you will be much better off! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Seriously, they are great rigs, reliable, good on gas, and don't cost $50 every time you look at them! (Yes, I have several EB enthusiast friends!)

If you decide not to buy it, I would be interested, since it is in my home state, so please let me know...

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Mainly want a daily out of it. But I would use it for light trail use. (I have another EB for the trail)..I wanted something that I could travel in for long hauls..I'm basically stuck doing a 200+ round trip every weekend...plus all the driving I have to do during the week. How reliable are they?..and be honest. Cause I know my bronco always seems to bust something...but thats what old trucks to best. Any trouble spots with 4 runners (as in drivetrain area). And I love the idea of a rust free vehicle. GRRRR........Don't know what to do
 

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<IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"> This is easy. It's a GREAT buy, even it the price taps you. Toyotas are awesome long-range drivers, (comfy) they are killer to put to the post office/grocery etc...I recently bought my second 86, first was an SR5 w/ 4" lift by Trailmaster, EFI, IFS, (didnt mind the ifs due to the fact that its a DD for me), and as far as mileage? My new 86 (4-runner) gets 21 highway, 17 city, and has 204,000 on the ticker, but was told the motor was rebuilt, and SURE that the Trans is new. Seeing the trail 'sometimes' and owning a runner....................? GOOD things!! You WILL NOT regret a purchase like this, plus, if you get disenchanted for some 'odd' reason, Toyota can guarantee you that your money will be refunded, (when you sell it for at least what you paid!) No more hesitating, ok. <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">
 

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How reliable are they? Well, let's see:

My current 4runner: Not a daily driver, but I have been wheeling the piss out of it for the past 2 years, and only have had to fix a rear brake line that got torn off by a log. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

My friend's '73 Bronco: Not a daily driver, he has been wheeling every time that I have in the last 2 years, and he has had to replace 2 fuel pumps, radiator, both front axles, alternator, steering box is tearing the frame, exhaust is falling off, replaced the starter and solenoid, one gas tank is full of foreign particles, can't have the CB and radio on at the same time, etc, etc. <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

The last 4 Toy's I have owned have all been the most reliable vehicles I have ever had.
 

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Yep, true true true. Hate to say it if your "Bronco-true" but........ fords beak, ALOT! And my Yotas? Reliable as anything i've ever had, even sold my Chevy parts stash, and SS ElCamino (68), but only due to gas costs. I would buy a broken Toy 4x4 before i'd buy a clean Bronco.

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My brother has a '84 4runner SR5 and it is great. 160k miles on the stock 22r carbed motor. Purrs like a kitten. Just a little stinky due to some exhaust leaks. He runs 31x10.50's on it and is a daily driver/weekend warrior. Only bad part is he has 3:90 gears or worse, so turning those 31's really slows it down when he goes uphill! But nothing a new set of gears, headers, and exhaust wouldnt cure! Go for it, even a stock 4runner can go places you would not immagine!
 

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damn fine motor sir.

i have an 85 truck. almost the same thing. it gets about 18 miles per gallon on the city and 28 on the highway. it hasn't broken yet except for routeen maintinence. i try to wheel it once a week but time is scarce lately. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

they are pretty cheap to build too! <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">
 

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Ok....you guys are starting to win me over <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Now...I'm not a big fan of that 84/85 front clip...what type of swaps and crap can you do with sheet metal?
 

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Originally posted by Omega:
<STRONG>Ok....you guys are starting to win me over <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Now...I'm not a big fan of that 84/85 front clip...what type of swaps and crap can you do with sheet metal?</STRONG>

Swap in big lift/tires and gently rub the front clip on some rocks and trees....can't beat the price, sometimes you can get 20-30% off... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Go for that "treeatsu sheet metal massage" i keep seein...... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by NtheHills:
<STRONG>Go for that "treeatsu sheet metal massage" i keep seein...... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Works for me!! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

It's also sometimes known as "braille" <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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I believe the 4runner would be more realistic for a daily driver,But I do find myself looking for that "perfect" engine swap.....35's and hills don't mix well on the highway....offroad I'd prefer the 4 cyl....lot less prone to breaking something on the trail.
 

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Curiosity? Why less prone to break somethin w/ the 22re? or 22r?
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Yeah, know the 'braille' quite well !
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I have an 85 4runner 22re SR5. Seriously, I love that rig. Like your opportunity, I bought mine for $1850 w/ a blown head gasket.
Even with the 35s and the lift, it is a comfy freeway ride. 5:29s let me keep up on the hills! You won't regret it. Good luck.

Hey, where are the east bay hills??? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Cull/Crow/Bollinger/Norris/Palomeris canyons, east bay hills.....CV.

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I'll tell you about an 8th of the reasons i like the 4Runner
LONG LASTING

GREAT FOR DD

ENOUGH CARGO SPACE FOR ALOT OF CAMPING

ABLE TO BE UPGRADED TO EXTREME OFF-ROAD RIGS VERY EASILY

NOT A JEEP <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

REMOVABLE TOP

LOTS OF ADD-ONS AVAILABLE

GOOD QUALITY STRUCTURE

SEATS 5

GREAT SHOPS AVALIABLE FOR PARTS... NOT TAP <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0">

BUILT SO YOU CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FOR BETTER OFF-ROAD CAPABILITY.... ABLE TO CUT FENDERS, BOB THE BED, ETC...

i COULD GO ON FOREVER BUT IM TIRED
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