[Diesel Smoke]

To each their own I guess. Not like it's a rare antique on anything, but what a way to fuck up a good rifle.

 

[bigal1]

lame :shaking:

 

[Ben Segrest]

The link talked about reduced loads, etc. True, there is a reduction in V due to the SHORT barrel. Care to speculate on the Velocity ? What is typical Mil surp MN ball ammo ? 180 grain at around 2750/2800 from a 29-inch barrel ? What does the mastebater have, 6-inches ?? :lmao: Maybe 2,200/2,300 fps ? As he said, they were clearing benches off, prolly from the break. Anyways, he's still got a butt load of recoil. As shown here on PBB, there is no grip. It's going straight back. The OP in the link mentioned another horrible sacrificial butchering, a broomhandle Mauser handle stuck on it like some weird psycho hybrid scene from the evil kid "extremely dangerous" in the movie Toy Story.

From the builder

It actually has a little less than 2 inches of rifling

and

Muzzleblast is awesome, recoil is minimal

 

[aloharover]

Talk about a bunch of haters
Seems just like the kind of gunfawkery we always talk about.
Money says if Doc did this and posted it up a bunch of you would all be step all over each other to praise it.

I would try and make a real pistol grip for it, but cool idea.

 

[Diesel Smoke]

Talk about a bunch of haters
Seems just like the kind of gunfawkery we always talk about.
Money says if Doc did this and posted it up a bunch of you would all be step all over each other to praise it.

I would try and make a real pistol grip for it, but cool idea.

My reaction would have been the same, I just wouldn't have posted.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC

 

[85f150dsel]

I'd have to agree, if I had a Mosin with a shitty barrel I would have no problem doing this, but I would want a pistol grip somewhere.

 

[LiLBucket]

While I don't "like" it as pictured, I appreaciate the gunfawkery!

Make a stock with a better grip and maybe something more to grap up front.


Oh, when and why did they de-mil 91/30s??

 

[animator]

Talk about a bunch of haters
Seems just like the kind of gunfawkery we always talk about.
Money says if Doc did this and posted it up a bunch of you would all be step all over each other to praise it.

I would try and make a real pistol grip for it, but cool idea.

No. I'd still hate it. Not everyone swings off of Doc's nuts. :flipoff2:

 

[misterfubar]

Oh, when and why did they de-mil 91/30s??

That's what I was wondering. Cali thing maybe?

Or is it the once a rifle always a rifle ATF thing... Or is that pistols? I never really bothered looking into how all that works.

 

[Zuki Tyler]

That's what I was wondering. Cali thing maybe?

Or is it the once a rifle always a rifle ATF thing... Or is that pistols? I never really bothered looking into how all that works.

Not a CA thing, but a federal thing.

The ATF has varying opinions on "C&R" type receivers. They're more of a "rifle" than your new produced AR receiver. It's a horribly gray area.

By "destroying" the receiver (diagonal saw cuts, the ATF specifies how/where), it is no longer a firearm. Then they are able to weld it back, creating a "virgin" receiver that is then turned into a pistol.

You can see where the receiver was cut and re-welded in the picture- I'm sure they're leaving that as evidence of the new construction.

 

[misterfubar]

Not a CA thing, but a federal thing.

The ATF has varying opinions on "C&R" type receivers. They're more of a "rifle" than your new produced AR receiver. It's a horribly gray area.

By "destroying" the receiver (diagonal saw cuts, the ATF specifies how/where), it is no longer a firearm. Then they are able to weld it back, creating a "virgin" receiver that is then turned into a pistol.

You can see where the receiver was cut and re-welded in the picture- I'm sure they're leaving that as evidence of the new construction.

So legally I can't take one of my 91/30s chop the stock down and then shorten the barrel to make one of these? But I can cut one or two in half, weld it back together and I'm ok?

I bet that law has saved a lot of lives and kept guns out of criminals' hands.

 

[Zuki Tyler]

So legally I can't take one of my 91/30s chop the stock down and then shorten the barrel to make one of these? But I can cut one or two in half, weld it back together and I'm ok?

I bet that law has saved a lot of lives and kept guns out of criminals' hands.

Wait... these laws are supposed to make SENSE?

It was really fun at my last compliance check, plopping three non-date marked 1894 Brazilian small-ring Mauser receivers marked as 28g shotguns in front of the agent and saying "so, what do you all consider these?"

 

[misterfubar]

Wait... these laws are supposed to make SENSE?

It was really fun at my last compliance check, plopping three non-date marked 1894 Brazilian small-ring Mauser receivers marked as 28g shotguns in front of the agent and saying "so, what do you all consider these?"

I imagine he twitched a few times while repeating "Does not compute" until his head finally exploded, right?

 

[87manche]

I'd shoot it and laugh my ass off everytime I pulled the trigger.

well, I might cry a little at first when it breaks my wrist, but then I'd giggle.

 

[Gozuki]

Remember, I built a PSL kit into a 9" pistol a couple of years ago. Aside from not getting the gas system 100%, it was interesting. Blast was horrific, but the recoil was minimal. I honestly had a lot more fun building the thing than shooting it.

 

[fj40john]

Very cool from a gunfawkery POV. I have no desire to own one.

 

[usmcdoc14]

Now I would build it as a clone of typical afghanistan/Khyber pass backup weapon that have been made quite a few years now. But it is pretty pointless and ugly as fuck :laughing: if you google search you'll find better but also more ghetto real world examples

 

[Gozuki]

"obrez"

 

[misterfubar]

Now I would build it as a clone of typical afghanistan/Khyber pass backup weapon that have been made quite a few years now. But it is pretty pointless and ugly as fuck :laughing: if you google search you'll find better but also more ghetto real world examples

I think I saw a couple in the pile we hauled and then they blew up today. :laughing: :nuke:

Some of you guys would cry if you saw some of the caches that are found and then blown up.

 

[Ben Segrest]

Did any of you dumbshits even read the thread? The guy is making a Han Solo blaster clone (bolt action). The stock pictured is just a stopgap until he gets all the required pieces machined.