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Last Sunday I drove over to Wheelinjp's Casa with a 82 BJ 60 axle freshly ground and painted, Yarded the old 40 rear end minus the third member and plugged it in. With Tankotas help (Lockrite Guru <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">) we installed the old third member into the housing slipped in the lockrite, guided in the monster FJ60 axles and bolted it back up. For the brakes I bought a 60" 10mm x 1 hard line, cut off one end and reflared a stock 9mm x 125mm pitched brake end. I plugged the 9mm into the union that branches the front and rear lines and ran the other end out to a union. I added another 8" 10mm hard line which I bent to fit into a mini truck rear end flexible brake line....this plugged into the FJ60 third member union which feeds the rear wheel cylinders.
Total cost of the swap:
$100 for a slightly rusty FJ60 rear end.
$20 for perches.
$19 for a mini rear end hose.
$8 for hardlines.
Lets call it $150 for incedentals and paint.
Thanks for the use of Wheelinjp's shop and expertise, and Tankota for the mathmatical stuff and keeping me and Sean from dropping stuff on ourselves I.E. Third members, Axles, Cruisers, etc.. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
Intial impressions are outstanding, The stock 1969 single line master cylinder keeps the rear brakes totally happy (no drag, plenty of pressure) and the Rig tracks fine with front and rear axles being roughly the same width. You can actually feel the difference the 3" inch longer 60 axle makes, I took it up a 40 deg ramp, and bounced off the tree that was holding it up, my left rear tire came 2 feet off the ground and the right rear was resting on the rim. The Rig didn't pitch over and I preety sure I would have rolled it with the stock 55" rear end in. The whole truck moves diffently now, and feels more stable.
Wheelinjp broke out the plasma cutter and worked up a spacer for a stock fj40 ebrake that will mount to my tranny tunnel cover.
I will post pics later this evening.
-Rick
 

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Congradulations! <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> Wider IS better! Now tear it the fawk up! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eyemouth.gif" border="0">

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Now you are 58" WTW in the rear and 56? up front.

Pretty soon you'll have that 59 7/8" WTW hybrid up front <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Then add on those 36 x 14.5" swampers and you'll be wide enough...hmmm that seems familiar cause that was how wide my rig was going to be before someone decided they didn't need their SM465 and NP205 and needed a new frontend <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by Medusa:
<STRONG> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> OK, it is all in the eyes of the beholder.</STRONG>
If you don't have anything nice to say, stay the fawk off of my victory post please... <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

They are monsterous compared to the skinny sleeved axles that came stock with my rig. A friend told me that D60's D44's and Toy LC axles are all the same at the splines, the FJ60 axle necks up 3 times to an almost 2" diameter, which is standard for fine splined LC's, early FJ's did not have the "monsterus"

So go take your Dana 60 axles and play in another sandbox bro, I'm diggin what I got and the price I paid for it.......ohh wait, I forgot about Wheelinjp's and Tankotas labor bills...time for a second morgage
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Naa Tankota, you would have gone with the 36 x 12.50's which would have made you just a little narrower <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> someday when you get that 205 plugged in and your 465 takes a header, and you have a back up....you'll thank me for takin that front end off your hands <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0">
 

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Here are the pics I promised (notice the tailight relocation and 2" missing off the bottom of the quater panel) pics were taken with digi cam set on barely recognizeable 1 pixel per square inch <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">
<IMG width=640 height=480 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/FJ60axle2.jpg">

<IMG width=640 height=480 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/FJ60axle5.jpg">
 

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HEY.......... that looks framiliar <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> also looks CANADIAN to me too <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

good job man
 

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<IMG width=640 height=480 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/FJ60axle1.jpg">
 

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Originally posted by Medusa:
<STRONG> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> OK, it is all in the eyes of the beholder.</STRONG>
look at the diameter of fj60 axles to fj40s Its like compareing a d60 to a d44

theyre fawkin huge...... right rick?

btw wheres the finders thanks???

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ha ha, yep, shout out to our Canadain neighbors who came through on some decent prices.......what the hell is a Catian Wanker anyway ?? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by Sixgun:
what the hell is a Catian Wanker anyway ?? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">[/QB]
I accedently spelt it wrong.

<IMG SRC="smilies/emb.gif" border="0"> Its Captian Wanker!!! i was just bored
 

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hehe hate it when that happens!! anyway thanks for hookin a brother up man, let me know if your lookin and I'll "cut" ya a deal.
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That looks really nice Rick those are some nice welds on those perches. OOOHHHHooowwwwwwuuuucccchhhh I got a cramp while patting myself on the back AAAAHHH much better. Now when we do the front axle we can level out that ride. You are starting to look like a stoner camaro from Kent...I think the front springs are sagging a little.We need to wheel it to make sure.See ya tommorrow.
 

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Sigh.................

I raised my son to talk and act like this....I should have let him wear dresses and play with dolls....

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Dresses and dolls probably don't go over real well in the Army <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Rick, Congratulations on the promotion <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">
 

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Sixgun... I apologize for the fact that my sarcasm offended you. I did not intend it to be taken in that manner, and I am pleased you were able to make this upgrade. I did not intend to belittle your upgrade, only to point out that the adjective monstorous could be interpreted differently by others.

look at the diameter of fj60 axles to fj40s Its like compareing a d60 to a d44
I respectfully disagree with this statement. Where many of us would agree the practical strength resides -- at the splines, the FJ60 axles are the same as the FJ40 (1.31" diameter and 30 spline). Note that Sixgun used the old differential and the lockrite from an FJ40. At the splines, this is the same as a Dana 44 and some stock applications of the Dana 60. It is significantly smaller than the 35-spline D60s, D70s or the Corporate 14 bolt rear ends.

I had better now go back to my own sandbox before I get into any more trouble <IMG SRC="smilies/clown.gif" border="0">

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Medusa that is very nice of you to appoligize but there is a difference in the fj 40 to fj60 axle and if you ever go to buy outer bearings you will find out the larger diameter is to facilitate a larger bearing for the increased width and weight of the fj60 versus the lighter narrower fj40. As far as the strength at the splines,DDAAHH I know Rick and he is aware of that but when you are holding a monsterous diameter axleshaft it is something to oogle. I helped him and I couldnt believe the size, it was like watching a porn movie for wheelin people. Comments like yours are why many people post less and less on this board constantly, cant people just be friggin happy for the guy and say good job nice improvement, no its not a $2500.00 dollar 14bolt or 40 spline 60 from Dynatrac but it is a huge improvemnent to him and he likes it. An old saying I bet you've heard before "If you cant say anything nice then dont say anything at all" He along with many arent looking for what you would do different just a look what I accomplished and thats all. If it was a life safety issue then say something but if not then dont waste your valuable time replying. Just my .02c
 

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WHEELINJP: yep your welding is looking better all the time ( I guess it's all the practice you been gettin lately <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">)
IRONWOLF: Sheesh Dad you give away all my secrets, now everyone will know how to get close to the babes when they're young <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
JACK RICE: I remember a post I did a year back where I posted a pic of your rear Double cardan drive shaft but didn't give you credit because I couldn't remember where I'd gotten the pic from, and you sent me a nasty gram...I been kinda defensive with ya every since. I appreciate your apology, and will consider your correspondence in a more favorable light from now on. I agree with you that later model FJ40 axles and FJ60 axles are the same at the splines but they neck up 3 times to huge outer diameter where the bearings roll. I was just impressed with the diameter of the 60 axles because my 69 rear end had the skinny sleeved type.
TANKOTA: Thank you bro......more money for the Toys!!! hehe
Regards everyone, Rick

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