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I have a '92 4x4 pickup that I need to lift (4") by the end of the month, if possible, and have a few remaining questions that was hoping you all could help me out with.

#1. I still haven't decided which IFS lift to use; I've narrowed it down to Superlift, Trailmaster, and ProComp. Cost asside, what are your opinions? I was curious which had good instructions (I will be installing this myself), customer service, quality, and if it includes all parts I will need (like brake lines, etc.)
#2. Survey for those of you who have lifted your IFS: Who did you buy your kit from and how much did you pay, and what was included? (does this price cover front lift only or stuff for the rear as well, did shocks come with?)
#3. Has anyone here used the Rockstomper IFS travel kit?
#4. Those of you with Chevy's in the rear: How much did you pay, if you don't mind? I don't want to get ripped off by the junkyard.
#5. My last question: It is my understanding that the Chevy's will only lift about 3", and the rest can be made up with add-a-leaves or blocks. What about a Chevy shackle that was 1 or 2 inches over stock? Will a 1" shackle necessarilly lift the truck 1"? I would rather stay away from blocks. I plan to go with the double shackle method.

Alright, that's all I can think of for now. I have a longstanding bet with a friend about who will lift their truck first,and he just got a lot of birthday money and has been telling me how he's going to lift his Heep in the next two weeks, so we kinda just figured that he won. Before he has a chance to gloat, I thought maybe I could still possibly beat him, and how upset he would be. Good motivation. Anyway........Thanks in advance for your help. <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">
 

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Save your fundage on a new lift,its not cost effective. I am underway on a SAS conversion at the moment and will sell you the upper A arms, steering linkages,frame bar,26mm torsions. All you will need is maybe a few nuts and bolts to replace the few that are missing,brake lines,rear leafs,shocks.
BTW--the MFG is Downey off road.
$200 and you pay shipping. All is in excellent working order and if bought new, would easily $600 ......
 

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go for sas!

new trucks look awesome that way. and go for the full size dana 60's.

probably need a v8 too.

and then some 37's.

that would be a sweet truck!
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If you are set on a 4" lift( I am running 33's w/ a 2") go with superlift. A buddy has one with the stomper kit and he likes it. DEFINATELY stay away from ProCrap.
 

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Save your money and go SAS. We just installed a Rubicon Express kit on my buddy 01 heep. Sorry to say if you want to keep up go SAS. By the time you go and buy an IFS lift and the goodies to go with it, for a couple hundred more dollars you could have SAS. You can do a budget SAS from what I have read on here. Then build that up as you get more $$$, or break stuff.....
 

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I would think that if you can cut and weld the ifs on and off just leave it off and look at this board and do a junkyard sas. Lets see sqare tubing and hanger material under 50$ stock wagg springs 50$+/- shackles 50$ you have the IFS box custom arm for x-over 250$ tops, then the rockstomper x-over setup tierod and dragling is what under 200$. then rear chevs 50$ shackles 50$ so 700 in parts then like 150 for a front axle 850$ installed sas systym that will just kick total ass and turn heads everywhere.How much was a new IFS lift?
On the other side of the fence is IFS I thought that scotts arms went to a trailmaster kit myself. His stuff is solid and works well. the chevs are hard to get height outa without blocks and addaleafs and shackles.
 

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oops, i forgot to mention: I am NOT interested in a SAS!! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> I mean, of course I'm interested, but don't have the $$ as I'm going to college and all, etc. Maybe in a few years. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> Right now, I've decided to go with liftingthe IFS, and I KNOW there are people on this board who still have it. Just wanted some opinions. Artztoy: For the Downey kit, don't the t-bars hav to be cranked, etc? I haven't heard many good things about this kit or Downey even, for that matter. How's it ride, etc. and were you happy with it when you had it? If not the t-bars, then what lifts the vehicle?
 

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Originally posted by Skyetone:
<STRONG>the chevs are hard to get height outa without blocks and addaleafs and shackles.</STRONG>
k, it is my understanding that the Chevy's will lift me about 3". Is this correct? If so, then a 1" block would do the trick fine, right? I was also planning on keeping the stock Toyota shackle (for dual shackle), if i were to replace the Chevy shackle with a Chevy 1" or 2" lift shackle, that shoud do the trick too, right? Seems like people are always talking of aal's and blocks, but not shackles. Is there a drawback to using shackles?
 

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The shackles will work better than the lift blocks in controlling the axlewrap (notorius in toyota springs.....) just remember that adding length to the shackle will in essence raise the pinion angle some (a couple degrees depending on how radical you go..)this is good for clearance but bad for vibration. Try to keep the u-joint angles equal at the transfer case and differential. Also note that the chevy shackles mount differently than the toyotas....
 
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