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I just put the M.O.R.E. stubby SRS on this last weekend. I have a couple of things to modify after talking to H8Monday. I have two questions though. I saw in the M.O.R.E. catalogue that have plates that mount on top of the spring perch that mounts the axle back an inch. I can make those in a half hour. Are these mounts worth it. With my SRS and those brackets, I can extend my wheel base by 3". I need input on this before I order my new front DS from Tom Woods since it would obviously change the length I'd need. Also, is it possible that not having a front DS could cause the front end to be more "bouncy" TIA

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be careful of you pinion angle and caster when pushing the axle forward too much. Steering issues can come up also.
I had death wobble from the kit just from the angle that the kit set my caster. Make sure you take Sluts advice and check caster. I put a 6° shim in mine and it set the caster and pinion angle better, but it is still not perfect.
 

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Grunt YJ said:
Also, is it possible that not having a front DS could cause the front end to be more "bouncy" TIA

Jason
WTF :confused:

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :laughing:

Just make sure you check you're blinker fluid level. If you get low on that your front end will be way light and can bounce right out from under the Jeep :flipoff2:
 

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Re: Re: After SRS questions

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WTF :confused:

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :laughing:

Just make sure you check you're blinker fluid level. If you get low on that your front end will be way light and can bounce right out from under the Jeep :flipoff2:
OMG, that was fawking hillarious!!!!!! Do you think this shit up all by yourself??? Now how about you shut the fawk up if you don't have anything important to say:rolleyes:

I wonder about assholes like you that having nothing to do with your lives but hang out on a board and ridicule someone who is learning and teaching themselves. Sad, just sad. How old are you? You sound like you just off the playground.
 

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I had death wobble from the kit just from the angle that the kit set my caster. Make sure you take Sluts advice and check caster. I put a 6° shim in mine and it set the caster and pinion angle better, but it is still not perfect.
Right now my caster is about 2 degrees to the rear. The steering is better than it was before. I have shims in right now. If I would redrill the perch and put a larger shim in, I would still be good right?


What is the big deal about a tom woods ds? I have yet to hear ofanyone else who has had a problem with him.
 

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OMG, that was fawking hillarious!!!!!! Do you think this shit up all by yourself??? Now how about you shut the fawk up if you don't have anything important to say:rolleyes:

I wonder about assholes like you that having nothing to do with your lives but hang out on a board and ridicule someone who is learning and teaching themselves. Sad, just sad. How old are you? You sound like you just off the playground.
Oh boy :shaking:

1) I sound like I just got off the playground? Check your language braniac and see what looks more juvenile. I've never been one to watch my mouth, but calling names and swearing doesn't make you look like the type of person who could critisize anyone for acting "like they just got off the playground".

2) How about you shut the [email protected] up if you don't have anything important to say :rolleyes:

3) Blow me

4) Suck a D

5) Go to hell

6) Fawk off

7) Eat sh!t

8) Make sure you take everything in life seriously :laughing:

Develop a thicker skin tough stuff because if you can't take a crack at your expense you're a sad sack. How's that for immature you big baby :crybaby: :flipoff2: You want a tissue???


What is it with the pussification of this BB? It's spreading like wild fire :(
 

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What's wrong with your board? It's pussies like you that talk like your Mr. Badass on a BB and waste other's time. Thick skin? What the hell is that about. Oh let me take a guess at it. Since I ask a question, and you don't have knowledge or the care to give an answer you put a moronic reply on the thread. Could it be that you have no life? Your real life sucks and you feel important when you post something because you have anonymity to hide behind? You rate your dick size by your post count? I could care less about less about your thoughts of me, but what you are doing is wasting my time and anyone else's that comes to the site to learn things. That's the main reason with what is wrong with "your concept" of the board.

If you want thick skin, then go to off topic and get your rocks off. Nobody needs their time wasted on the tech side.
 

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Right now my caster is about 2 degrees to the rear. The steering is better than it was before. I have shims in right now. If I would redrill the perch and put a larger shim in, I would still be good right?
dunno, it has to be close to factory angles. do the measurements on your rig while you are making the changes. I am not a fan of shims, but I had to use them to get rid of the death wobble on my jeep, cause it is a DD.


What is the big deal about a tom woods ds? I have yet to hear ofanyone else who has had a problem with him.
I am going to have to agree that toms shafts are not high quality. It is helpful to use parts that allow smooth movement at higher degrees, rather than use a dremel to wallow out some clearance for the joints.
 

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What's wrong with your board? It's pussies like you that talk like your Mr. Badass on a BB and waste other's time. Thick skin? What the hell is that about. Oh let me take a guess at it. Since I ask a question, and you don't have knowledge or the care to give an answer you put a moronic reply on the thread. Could it be that you have no life? Your real life sucks and you feel important when you post something because you have anonymity to hide behind? You rate your dick size by your post count? I could care less about less about your thoughts of me, but what you are doing is wasting my time and anyone else's that comes to the site to learn things. That's the main reason with what is wrong with "your concept" of the board.

If you want thick skin, then go to off topic and get your rocks off. Nobody needs their time wasted on the tech side.
Keep getting yourself worked up there, this is funny :laughing: Been registered since December and got it all figured out huh? Especially with that anonomous pussy part, you got me there shit brick :shaking:

By the way you never really defined what you meant by "more bouncy" so technically how could anyone answer your question :confused: :laughing: :flipoff2:
 

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Yup, you really got me worked up. You must be have Phd. in pyschology. Must have a Masters in English literature too since you can read that I've been a member since December. What does it matter if I've only been a member of this board since December? It's obviously clear that you have a form of little man's snydrome to a degree:rolleyes:

Your turn:flipoff2:
 

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Maybe Im a dumb fuck :) but I thought You were not supposed to put degree shims in the front end? For the same reasons Your not supposed to run lift blocks in front.
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350 Samurai said:


I think Mike is the one with little man syndrome. :flipoff2:
bAWAhahaha :D

When you ask the question "why did it matter if he'd only been here since December?" it explained quite a bit. Lurk and learn :flipoff2:

It is common to use degree shims up front because it is easier then cutting and turning knuckles, moving cast perches, etc. They can still spit out like a lift block but are a lot lower profile so they don't create quit as much leverage around themselves.
 

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If you do use the degree shims, make sure you get the steel ones and bolt them to your spring pack. Those type are a lot safer than the aluminum puck style. Rubicon express sells them if you do not want to fab your own.

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Bigdude....little man syndrome.....BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

(I instantly thought of that same pic.....poor Spaceghost, poor, poor Spaceghost)

I think Bigdude needs to admit that that was a funny-ass smack by the newbie...nice.

Now for all the other shit shoveled up by Grunt YJ....just shut up and take it like a man, I mean really, relax, it's just the interweb.

By the way, Bigdude is on the Jeep Tech payroll as a newbie smacker, so don't take it personally, he's been conditioned to respond to terms like "more bouncy".....kind of like a bull seeing red.

And now, enough Shit-Shat, lstes get back to the tech, I run the standard MORE SRS, and while I have some DW issues of my own, my caster is right on with the stock specs for my '81 Waggy Dana 44 front, the stubby SRS adds a little more postive caster, posibly making turning effort a little more difficult, but also helping tracking a little on axles with very little or no positve caster built in. How much the stubby SRS changes your caster really depends on what springs you're running.

The stubby SRS also hurts your pinion angle, not too much concern on a Jeep with a 3' front driveshaft, especially if a HP axle is keeping your pinion from becoming and plow point, but still worth considering. Especially with a front SRS/buggy spring setup, care needs to be taken that pinion angle doesn't change do drastically at maximum droop that the u-joint's operating angles are exceeded.

The stubby SRS also effects the roll-axis of your front suspension, tilting it down towards the rear of the vehicle and up towards the front, which if exaggerated, could cause some excessive roll steer under articulation.

If you need to shim to put your caster and pinion angles back in spec, make some steel shims with an off set center pin and either bolt them to the spring, or weld them to the axle perch, I'd probably bolt them on for trial and error, then pull them out and weld them so they don't stress the center pin any more than they have too.

If you end up with more than 6 degrees of shim you may want to look into rotating your knuckles.

If you're worried about getting the right driveshaft, do it the right way, put ti together, run it up a (ick) Ramp, and measure, nobody can tell you what shaft will work for your rig, especially with all the useful information you've provided (engine, trans, t-case, front axle, lift, wheel-travel, etc)

Oh yeah, hey newbie :flipoff2:
 

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What's wrong with your board? It's pussies like you that talk like your Mr. Badass on a BB and waste other's time. Thick skin? What the hell is that about. Oh let me take a guess at it. Since I ask a question, and you don't have knowledge or the care to give an answer you put a moronic reply on the thread. Could it be that you have no life? Your real life sucks and you feel important when you post something because you have anonymity to hide behind? You rate your dick size by your post count? I could care less about less about your thoughts of me, but what you are doing is wasting my time and anyone else's that comes to the site to learn things. That's the main reason with what is wrong with "your concept" of the board.

If you want thick skin, then go to off topic and get your rocks off. Nobody needs their time wasted on the tech side.
This guy rules :beer: Albeit confused, but can throw some smack back.:D

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