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I have a question about what a business is and is not allowed to do, when it comes to medical benefits for an employee.

Our company pays 100% of our medical. We have a handful of employees whose insurances costs(to the company) are that of a minimum wage, full time employee.

We have a new boss, he is on this rampage about how some people are underpaid...however, they have a HUGE benefit as their medical package. (including him)

My question is, can we show what the value (per pay period) of the medical benefits on everyone's paycheck?
 

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I have a question about what a business is and is not allowed to do, when it comes to medical benefits for an employee.

Our company pays 100% of our medical. We have a handful of employees whose insurances costs(to the company) are that of a minimum wage, full time employee.

We have a new boss, he is on this rampage about how some people are underpaid...however, they have a HUGE benefit as their medical package. (including him)

My question is, can we show what the value (per pay period) of the medical benefits on everyone's paycheck?
I can go to an intranet site that shows me the total value of my compensation. It is available to our employees in California, so I don't know why you wouldn't be able to do that.
 

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That was what I was thinking. I was discussing it with Mrs. Carter last week, and she said that they used to do it years ago. But California has become so completely wussified, I am almost afraid to mention it here for fear of the state tracking me down and fining me for having a thought. :laughing:
 

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Mine is printed on my check every month. Right next to my deductions is a section for employer paid detail with retirement, social security, medicare, workers comp, unemployment insurance, dental and health. I am in cali.

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Mine is printed on my check every month. Right next to my deductions is a section for employer paid detail with retirement, social security, medicare, workers comp, unemployment insurance, dental and health. I am in cali.

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SO...just for clarification....does it show what YOU pay in and what the company pays in? Because we pay nothing. The company pays it all.
 

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Mine is printed on my check every month. Right next to my deductions is a section for employer paid detail with retirement, social security, medicare, workers comp, unemployment insurance, dental and health. I am in cali.

Fixed my typo
So were mine at my old Cali job.
 

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I give out statements each year after open enrollment summarizing the plan costs along with the employee and employer portions detailed. Weekly they only see what is deducted (mandatory) but they all know what the company pays.
 

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We have a breakdown of where all the money goes that benifits us including pay. I'll see of I can get a picture of it in a minute.

The number your looking for is referred to as "total package". It might also do the employees some good to realize what they actually cost the company also.


That or leave it alone and let the boss think your underpaid also
 

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We have a breakdown of where all the money goes that benifits us including pay. I'll see of I can get a picture of it in a minute.

The number your looking for is referred to as "total package"


That or leave it alone and let the boss think your underpaid also
:laughing::laughing: I am actually fine with my rate of pay. I do my job, the work that the "engineer" drops, the work that the last boss dumped onto me and now the new boss couldn't manage if he tried. I feel fairly compensated, believe it or not. :) I come and go as I please--that has value.

The new boss is completely over compensated, we paid a physicist less than what they gave in to for this scheister, who cannot write a technical proposal. Meanwhile, we have a service department that is suffering and "no money" to help. SO.... all I see is him "self serving", and for whatever reason, blowing the completely douchey engineer who nearly lost his job for surfing porn at work, and couldn't handle a simple production job, so it ended up in my lap.

I'm ok with my compensation, I earn it. I just know that no one else in the building has ANY clue at what their insurance costs. NO CLUE. Perhaps if they did, they might stop complaining (doubtful) but I think it would be good for the company to say, hey... we do value you. Look at the cost we pay 100% of for your insurance.

Anyway...my rant is over. 3.5 years is all I need to hang out for. Hopefully. :laughing::laughing:
 

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Be careful when the company negotiates their insurance every year and are able to get a reduction in cost some employees will view this as a reduction in compensation. This is especially true when they loose services are get an increase in their co pays and out of pocket.

As the company tries to manage the health care cost and solely supporting the insurance you may find it difficult to explain why the compensation you are saying the employee receives is less.

I know this because I negotiate my companies rates and have gotten discounts. When I do I use that as leverage when I sit down for my yearly review and bonus.
 

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Don't forget to mention the 18% the company pays (hidden from the employee) for the privilege of paying them their salary. Most retards reply with, "That's not true." :shaking:
 

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I can go to an intranet site that shows me the total value of my compensation. It is available to our employees in California, so I don't know why you wouldn't be able to do that.
This. My company provides a total compensation statement quarterly and it's available on your personal HR portal at all times.
 

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Be careful when the company negotiates their insurance every year and are able to get a reduction in cost some employees will view this as a reduction in compensation. This is especially true when they loose services are get an increase in their co pays and out of pocket.

As the company tries to manage the health care cost and solely supporting the insurance you may find it difficult to explain why the compensation you are saying the employee receives is less.

I know this because I negotiate my companies rates and have gotten discounts. When I do I use that as leverage when I sit down for my yearly review and bonus.
Since rates have been going up steadily for years I would not worry about this. O care is just making it worse.

I do not see what the company pays per check but I believe it is detailed in the info during open enrollment and then included in the total compensation breakdown at the end of the year.
 

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SO...just for clarification....does it show what YOU pay in and what the company pays in? Because we pay nothing. The company pays it all.
Yes. All mine as well as the employer contributions are listed. It is two different sections on the check.
 

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The one employer that paid 100% of my health insurance listed it fully on the compensation side of the paycheck and then showed the same amount on the deduction side. This was in Alabama, so not sure if California allows that or not.
 

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I'm pretty sure part of Obamacare is that all the total expense be given on your year end W2.

(Probably because your total package will eventually be taxed including insurance)
 

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My question is, can we show what the value (per pay period) of the medical benefits on everyone's paycheck?
Yes. As said above, on our check the employee and employer contributions are shown. You pay stub could show a zero for the employee and the total amount fro the employer.

FWIW our total, spouse and I both State employees for family three on Blue Shield UC Davis is a dime short of $2,000/month. :eek:
 
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