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Is anyone using a spool in their 85 runner? I want to see if anyone can compare a detriot with a spool for a 85 runner. Let me know what you think. thanks. Gotta lock'em up. <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">
 

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I run a spool in the rear of an '86 solid axle 4Runner. It chews tires but is excellent off-road. I've never used a detroit so i cannot give you a comparison, however; i have run a lockright and i can compare it to a spool.

Lockright: unlocks and locks

Spool: always locked


Lockright: ratchets (unlocks)around corners if the accelerator is not depressed. If it is depressed it will apply force to the lockright which will lock it up.

Spool: always locked. grinds tires and chirps around slow corners. Makes the truck want to go in a straight line


Lockright: lots of slop

Spool: NO SLOP AT ALL!!


I personally prefer the spool over a lockright.
 

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went from a detroit no-slip to a spool-
never go'n back!

much better road manners, no wiggle on decel/accel, no bangs, clicks, or clunks.
 

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Two tips for driving with spool(or welded rear end)

Keep the gas on around corners and keep rear tire pressure way up, this will give less chirping bucking around corners
 

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Well I'm not spooled but I am welded (same thing) and wouldn't go any other way I run my pressure at 32lbs and the tire chirp isn't to bad and I'm running 35" tires.
I drove my truck as a daily driver for over 5 years that way just under 100 miles a day and I never had any problems. <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">
 

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I haven't had any problems turning you just have to be carful on ice but I seen a buddy of mine roll coming home after playing in the snow because his detriot locked up on him after making a curve there was a patch of ice when the detriot engaged it slid him sideways and rolled him over so I think I will keep the spool at least I know what its doing all the time! <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">
 

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I've driven a welded rear in the snow and ice and it's very predictable. I actually prefer it to an open <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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i love my spool.
and will suck up the tire scrub since it tears shit up off road, i have been out the last couple weekends with my bro and he is opens, man he can barely take weight off a tire before it slips, i am so glad for the spool.
cant wait for the ice drives though that should be fun.
almost as much fun i hope, as driving the open on the ice roads where one tire is on ice and the other on the pavement, yeah its called no traction. so at least if there is some dry pavement you can keep going,
and i would think if you drive in 4wd in the ice and snow the chance of ass coming around would diminish some at least.
 

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the thing i found with my detroit rear compared to the spool in front is that the detroit will rachet while wheeling causing a loss of traction or momentum while the spool in front spins no matter what with no racheting, but somthing somwher has to give be it your locker racheting or somthing braking
 

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My buddy hase a 85 runner and he is taking his Detroit out and putting in a spool. He says that it has much better road manners. I have a Detroit, but I also have a long bed;so when that sucker unlocks my truck seems to be less effected.
 

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Spools are PIMP!!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">
 

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I was talking to one of the guys at Drive Train Specialists, and he said that running a spool will actually strengthen the diff, as it gets rid of the spider gears. According to him, the spider gears are one of the reasons a diff would fail. I think he said something 'bout they exert side force on the assembly <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/question.gif" border="0"> . I'm not a rearend (gear <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> ) guy, so take it for what it's worth...
 

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I'm running an EZlocker out back, and have give serious thought to putting in a spool out back. and throwing the EZ up front after the SAS. The only thing holding me back is the whole daily driver thing. As cool as it is chirping tires around corners in normal (not FULL throttle) acceleration... And I actually had a car guy stop me and tell me "My back axle was broken" he coulnd't believe it when I told him it was SUPPOSED to do that

I still shudder at the idea of peeling rubber off of a 35" MT/R around every turn. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"></font>
 

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Are anny of you out thair running a spool front and rear? How dose it work? or a welded front and rear? im trying to figure out the best poor mans way to go.
 

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Originally posted by funky4x:
<STRONG>Are anny of you out thair running a spool front and rear? How dose it work? or a welded front and rear? im trying to figure out the best poor mans way to go.</STRONG>
<font color="yellow">The problem with running a diff in the front that NEVER unlocks is two-fold:
  1. Turning will be even worse than with an auto locker, because your tires will always pull you straight. At least with a Detroit/L.R. it will ratchet freely when you shift into 2WD for a really tight turn.
  2. You may find out you'll break a lot. Birfields do not like being stressed all the time... especially the binding that can occur when driving on a high traction surface (read: rocks) during a hard turn. Add to that the possibilites that you're hard on the throttle at that point, or that the rig is bouncing & sliding around, and you have a recipe for BREAKAGE. Birfield joint go boom.[/list=a]

    That's why you won't find hardly anyone here running spools up front - even if they run 'em out back. It's pretty much understood that for the front you want either a manual locker (air or electric) or else an auto-locker and a twin stick.</font>

    [ 11-01-2001: Message edited by: Yota-San ]
 

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Instead of running a twin stick with the front locker, could you just unlock one hub? This would give you guaranteed one wheel drive up front. The hope that this is possible is the only thing keeping the hope of an auto locker in my head for the front. Will this work?
 

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Originally posted by 4Runner Josh:
<STRONG>Will this work?</STRONG>
<font color="yellow">Why not run a twin stick? It's only $199 ($95 for that new SOS thingy).

I'd be hesitant to leave on hub unlocked. Then all the torque which normally gets split through 2 Birfs goes through one. Got Breakage? Think so.

And you'll get very tired of getting out to lock in that hub for hard spots, and then getting out again to turn. Why not disconnect the axle from the cab? You don't even have to stop to shift from 2LO to 4Lo with a twinstick.

Besides, a twin stickand a Lockright is still a hell of a lot cheaper than an air locker. Although I think I've found a place where I can get an Electric Locker for $4-500 using car-part.com's search feature. That's probably the way I'll go. <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0"></font>
 
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