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Did you notice material thickness was .1875? Too thin for me... I have not used any rings that thin, but that's my opinion.
 

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Same answer that I got when I asked about using the light weight dirt track beadlocks. Cheap and light, but probably not strong enough.
 

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So 1/4" is strong enough to get abused in the rocks, but 3/16 isn't strong enough for the snow? :laughing:

While I was searching, I actually found that some popular diy beadlocks are 3/16 standard and you pay extra for 1/4.

They don't seem to much different from the old school Eaton or Bart bead locks.
 

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Beadlock Kit for 15 Inch Wheel

Stumbled across these the other day. I figured it would be great for the snow, light and cheap considering it comes with hardware.
I bought a set for some 15x12 steel wheels I have. $300 for snow wheels is a lot better than the cheapest beadlock option (almost $1200 :eek: ) I think they will be just find in the snow.
 

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The only this I'm worried about with the speed way beadlock kit is the bead on the rockers being too big and not getting the tire to seal. I'm ASSUMING car racing tires are light and therefore have skinnier/thinner beads...
 

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The only this I'm worried about with the speed way beadlock kit is the bead on the rockers being too big and not getting the tire to seal. I'm ASSUMING car racing tires are light and therefore have skinnier/thinner beads...
Yes. Assumption correct.
 

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@hadfield4wd ran a set on his XJ for a few years. He upgraded them to grade 8 bolts, but never had any issues, that i recall.

The Allied beadlocks look to be about the same, and many folks run them. One guy here bent the crap out of his Allied ring in the rocks. We had to hammer it back flat for the tire to seal up.
 

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Wow blast from the past there.

Yes I used them on my old rig.

Here is a write up I did in 2011.

Well I have needed beadlocks for a long time. Just about every trip I lose a bead or bend a rim or both. I have had an extra set of rims around the house in order to get a weld-on kit. However I have a problem with the weld-on kits. They all are very heavy. Anywhere from 20-28 lbs. Added to a rim and you’re talking about a close to 40lb rim. I already break shafts so that much added rotational mass would only add to the situation.

So I have spent a lot of time looking into the different options. I thought about going to aluminum rims and internal beadlocks like the Inner Air locks. But I felt I’d need a strengthening ring to weld to the outer lip so I didn’t break a rim. That is when I stumbled on Aero Race Wheels (http://www.aeroracewheels.com).

They build wheels for dirt track cars. They only come in 15”. They have a DIY kit that is relatively inexpensive and is very light comparatively. The DIY kit they sell is only 7.2lbs with hardware, which is amazing. Also because the outer ring has a shape to it, you don’t need to worry about coning or centering the tire. Also if you want to go even lighter they have an aluminum outer ring that will save you another 1.5lbs. Anyway here is a chart that I did to compare the weights.



You can see that buy going aluminum I wouldn’t save any weight. I weighed my rims after I welded the beadlocks with the hardware and they are right at 28lbs. Now keep in mind there is a lot of variation in rim weights. The unbeadlocked steelies I took off were considerably heavier than what I started with. They weighed in at 26lbs. So I had a net gain of 2.5lbs per wheel. I’m pretty happy with this.

Ok back to Aero. I was very pleased with the quality. The inner ring holes all had nutserts installed so no need to use a box wrench on a nut on the back side when torqueing down the bolts.



One thing I was surprised by was that the inner ring only had 16 nutserts and holes and the outer ring had 32 holes. If I had read their webpage better I would have seen this. The other thing I was surprised about was that the bolts were 5/16’s and not 3/8’s like most other manufacturers recommend. In addition the bolts were just case hardened and not grade 8. So I went to the local Fastenal and bought 64, grade 8 5/16’s flange bolts. I spoke with tech support at Aero and they don’t think the number or size of the bolts will make a huge difference for my application. The bolt heads are protected from rocks by the ring and they use this setup on 800hp sprint cars. They did suggest checking the torque regularly as most of their users change tires every week. Only time would tell.

The powder coating on the outer rings is very good. These are 1/8” but with the pressed outer, that adds a lot of strength over a flat piece of steel like most DIY kits. There is also a mounting flange for a mud cover that I’m not using and was tempted to cut off. Maybe I’ll do that at a later date. In addition all my valve stems had to be relocated. With the beadlocks on they pointed directly at the inner ring. It would make it virtually impossible to fill with air. So I used a solid rod to fill the gap and welded the holes closed. Then I redrilled holes out of the way.

The welding was pretty easy. I took my time and prepped everything well. Ground the rim and the inner ring then wiped them down with acetone. Due to the fact that these are not ¼” thick they sit further down in the rim than other DIY kits so I tacked them in then very carefully cut 3/16” off of the rim. This way the weld surface was flush. Here are the pictures completed and mounted on the Jeep.









If you’re interested in Aero Race Wheels they don’t sell directly you have to go through a vender.

Also on a side note they have complete beadlock rims in 5 x 4.5 and 5 x 5. The 2 most popular Jeep bolt patterns. They have various backspacing and colors. They are also really light at 23lbs each.

The current owner is still using these with 38's now. Taking a beating


CLIFF NOTES***

I used them
Changed hardware to grade 8
Were light
Took a beating
Still on rig today with new owner.
I'd use them again.
 

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That's for the info. By the looks of the rig, you weren't using them exclusively in snow?

I think you made a good choice going grade 8. My current wheels used 18 5/16" bolts, I grabbed a bag of grade 5 bolt from my work for cheap. After a few months I started breaking a lot of bolts. Didn't seem to be related to what or how I was driving, I'd just randomly noticed broken bolts.

I figured if I was going to replace them all I mine as well step up to 3/8". No issues since with grade 8 3/8".
 

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I agree the lighter ring would have its benefits all around, especially in the snow. I use my 36" bias irocs and 1/4" rings year round rocks and snow. I was just up in the snow and there were a lot of logs and rocks that I was hitting just under the snow. I like the piece of mind I get for the heavy duty rings...1 ring to rule them all...
 

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That's for the info. By the looks of the rig, you weren't using them exclusively in snow?

I think you made a good choice going grade 8. My current wheels used 18 5/16" bolts, I grabbed a bag of grade 5 bolt from my work for cheap. After a few months I started breaking a lot of bolts. Didn't seem to be related to what or how I was driving, I'd just randomly noticed broken bolts.

I figured if I was going to replace them all I mine as well step up to 3/8". No issues since with grade 8 3/8".


Never used in snow. Only on rocks and some local grass roots rock racing.
 

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Forgot I even started this thread....

I bought a set of these for a little sidekick project. I plan on adding them to some stock samurai wheels and mounting 32" utv tires on them. They are definitely light weight. The inner ring looks to 1/8x1 1/4 flat bar rolled in a circle. The one thing I'm not to stoked on is that there is damn near 1/2" gap between the outside of the ring and the lip of the wheel. No way I'm going to fill that with weld on these thin wheels and rings. Not sure exactly what I'm going to do yet.
 

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I ran the Bart speedway weld ons. They held up decent for quite a few years. I mangled one pretty bad, ripped a hole in the tire. Beat the ring with a hammer and got it to seal.

Would I run them again for a budget beater? Yes.
 
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