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Hi jeepers, im just a spectator of the rockcrawling craze, i have folllowed it since 99. I have mostly seen the stuff at byrds but i have gone out west to watch some of the big events. I have been following all the comments since they released the info on the event at byrds a couple of months ago. I have a couple of questions. This event in Sep. at byrds costs 300 to enter each rig which includes camping for 4 people right? Some people have been complaining that 300 is too much and they need some sponsors to help out so they dont have to pay so much to enter. But, doesnt all of the other rockcrawling events have huge sponsorships backing them up. Dont they charge at least 300 to enter an event. Is it also true that some of them even make the competitors pay a pre-registration fee once a year just to be able to pay to compete? It sounds to me like these people complaining may be promotors of "big rockcrawling events" that are pissed that Byrd's is offering a bigger payout. On a side note the buggies were ok to watch the first couple of times but now they are like watching 4x4 fourwheelers they are not that much interesting unless they crash and roll. How many of these 50,000 dollar rigs want to keep doing that for what they are getting paid? I heard that the comparison between buggy and full bodied rigs is like comparing indy cars to nascars. The buggys are indy cars and the full bodied rigs are nascars and we all know how we love nascar! I would much rather watch a REAL jeep or toyota compete over some UFO Cage thing. Dont mean to piss off you buggy guys, just my thoughts. So you guys keep Gittin' er Done. Thanks for the entertainment. Twigs.
 

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:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Dang you figured all of us big promoters out... you are kidding right :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:

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I the competitor, am also the promoter? :shaking:

I barely have time to think much less promote an event.

And yes I'll keep shelling out tons of money every year to compete b/c I love this sport and I love the people that surround it.

Of all the sponsors nobody puts any money in my pockets, just products. So entry fee's come out of my hard earned day just like most competitors.
 

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twiggy, while you managed to get some facts right- your whole story is sadly misinformed.

The comps at Byrd's are special and fun, some have been better than others and some affiliated promoters caused some of their own trouble. There has never been an event there close in scale to the larger events you refer to. These guys don't need to worry about what you are doing. The history in the area is that few have the resources or inclination to spend that kind of money to compete- it's always been that way. While it's admirable and noble to try to host a larger event with a larger purse, there has never been evidence that you/they should expect that many paying customers.

If it were not for a conflict with another race, I'd already be registered, with a loaner rig that fit the class rules- but you already know that:)

Good luck with the event!
 

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I can speak for myself and some close friends as to we are not pissed or angry that the proposed comp in Sep. cost $300 to enter. Some are fine with that. One thing that has turned us off is that the promoter cannot confirm whether that it is going to happen until a month before the event. With stakes this high, we want at least 6 months to prepare to compete with a guarrantee that something is going to happen. First time event with unknown promoters, I am not sending a large check ahead of time. I will pay my fee at the gate.
The no buggies rule is a PITA because we don't know what they are going to rule as a buggy. I don't want to drag my half tubed Jeep all the way down there to be told I can't compete. the full bodied trail rig won't stand up to competition, so why bother.
We know that the larger sanctioned (mostly west coast) comps and series charge alot more to run in, and that's why all of these folks are sitting here wanting a comp because they can't afford to run with the big (wealthy) dawgs.

So twiggy, how are you affiliated with the promoter?
 
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