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I have a 1.5" drop front hanger, and 5" eye to eye shackles through the frame, with 44044 springs. What degree of shims are you guys running with this setup, if any? My pinion angle seems to be pretty flat, I havent gotten my driveshaft done yet, so dont know how bad it really is. Any Ideas? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Cut the shackles to 1 1/2"s over stock and You will not have to run those stupid shims. You will not lose that much lift. If you insist on running shims get the steel ones and weld them to your spring perches. I have seen the aluminum ones split and get spit out on the trail and take out U-joints, u-bolts, and brake lines with them.
 

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Originally posted by GRABBER:
<STRONG>I have a 1.5" drop front hanger, and 5" eye to eye shackles through the frame, with 44044 springs. What degree of shims are you guys running with this setup, if any? My pinion angle seems to be pretty flat, I havent gotten my driveshaft done yet, so dont know how bad it really is. Any Ideas? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Should be close to stock angles with that setup, 5" shackle is 1.5" over stock, matches your front drop. See how it handles on the road, if you don't like the handling, get the caster checked on a machine, them get some steel shims cut.
 

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Watch using shims on the front. I tried to put shims in to help my pinion (which is flat), it rotated the axle and put my draglink in direct contact with my spring. I took them back off.
For my front shaft(temporary) I made a square one using 2 V6 slip joints(no c/v). I tried it out today and it worked great!

Heres a pic' of my pinion, this is right after the frontend was dropped on fresh springs


[ 09-16-2001: Message edited by: Thomas William Harrison Jr. ]
 

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Originally posted by Thomas William Harrison Jr.:
<STRONG>Watch using shims on the front. I tried to put shims in to help my pinion (which is flat), it rotated the axle and put my draglink in direct contact with my spring. I took them back off. </STRONG>
Depends on how thick a spring pack you run, how much draglink clearance there is and how thick the shim is and which way its inserted. I can make fairly thin steel shims (depending on the degree) and was able to run 3 degrees on my high-steer setup. If you have heim joints, its fairly easy to change the spacer on the drag link to change its height. My AP steering arm came with two different spacers for this purpose. If you have FJ80 end, then you have a fixed clearance.
 

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Originally posted by Thomas William Harrison Jr.:
<STRONG>Watch using shims on the front. I tried to put shims in to help my pinion (which is flat), it rotated the axle and put my draglink in direct contact with my spring. I took them back off.
For my front shaft(temporary) I made a square one using 2 V6 slip joints(no c/v). I tried it out today and it worked great!

Heres a pic' of my pinion, this is right after the frontend was dropped on fresh springs


[ 09-16-2001: Message edited by: Thomas William Harrison Jr. ]</STRONG>
Yeah, thats about where my pinion angle is. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"> I'm also using two slip sides for my square driveshaft, their off of front IFS shafts. <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> Hopefully it will work out fine. The 44044's are a 6 leaf pack, so I may have a problem with shims. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

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Grabber, we're almost identical in our set-ups. I have allpro fronts to your waggys. W/O going outside rightnow I think I either have a 6 or 7 leafspring pack.
Your front square shaft will work great and the price doesn't hurt either. My front slip is 12" long and fully drooped I have around 3" to 4" still inside. I didn't use shim on the sides so it vibrates(all I did was pack it w/grease) at about 15mph. I don't really care it'll never see that speed anyway.

My truck works great, flexes over anything. If you keep the V6 case you won't have to ever change the square shaft. I do have the low crossover though, (still haven't forgiven myself for not getting hysteer,next years project).
My advice if your pinions like mine....

Run no shims,you don't need'em! Finish your front shaft and have a blast wheelin' the thing and if I were you invest in a diff. guard or make your own your gonna need it!! <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

Let me know if you have any ?s
tom
 

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Grabber, Whos tierod and draglink are they?
Hey any other pics of the undercarriage? its alittle hard to see.
thanx tom
 

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Originally posted by Thomas William Harrison Jr.:
<STRONG>Grabber, Whos tierod and draglink are they?
Hey any other pics of the undercarriage? its alittle hard to see.
thanx tom</STRONG>
Thats www.rockstomper.com Tie rod (Rock Rod), and Drag link. Their awsome! I will take some more pic's when I get rollin. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 
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