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The Taco rear axle housing in my 4Runner is bent. So, what axle to put under there?

I could just look for a bare Taco housing, but I don't have a lot into the existing one... I like the width of the Taco rear, but I don't like the locker choices or the expense of the gears.

The IFS Toy rear is compelling, reasonably strong, should be relatively cheap, consistancy of parts with the front axle and great clearance. But I wouldn't mind something a few inches wider, and I debate getting something stronger in case down the road it becomes a trailer rig with even bigger tires.

Or go beefy, Ford 9", Dana 60, Corp 14, Sterling 10.25? More $$ and time but maybe find something with disks right off the bat, and did I mention beef?


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I'd go with a IFS (pre-Tacoma) model...very plentiful and resonable, but a 9" would be nice as well seeing how you want width.
 

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If you can live with the width, go with the IFS rear. Like you mentioned, it's wonderful having the front and rear use the same 3rd member. But then, what would I know - I've got IFS (for a few more weeks)</font>
 

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Did you bend it???
HOW??
 

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Hey David, how's it goin? How did you bend that housing? Anyway, my opinion of course is to go big, but it may require more time and $$ to do that. I am about to swap D60's front and rear in my 4runner, so that is why I say go big, but who knows. If you decide you want a D60 rear or 14 bolt, let me know, I can get really good deals on em. Just remember that if you do D60 rear or 14 bolt for that matter, the only ones I can get are FF 8lug and Im pretty sure you can't easily convert them to 6 unless you find a SFD60 or the SF factory 6 lug 14bolt. Lol you said 9" and beefy in the same sentence. Some may disagree, but I think for all the money you would spend making a 9" beefy you could have saved just to go with a D60 or 14b. JMHO!
 

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Paniolo the dana 60 is a good choice but the unsprung weight will kill your frame in the long run. As a rear axle the 60 with 35 splines from the factory is rare at best , most common is the 30 spline which can be drilled for 35 splines but I think that the spindle may be getting a liitle to thin.The lockers for the 60 are about the same as the rest of the axles on the market. A ford 9" from a mid 70's early 80's car like a lincoln will have the width your looking for to match your front around 60-61" its the heavy duty housing with the 3.150 wheel bearings , the ford can easily be upgraded to 35 spline as well ,it and the 60 will share the same aftermarket axleshaft but the only downside you can only build one with a detroit locker or spool, the 60 can have any of the lockers in 35 spline .You could opt and bump to 40 spline in your 60 but only a spool is available for it. If you decide to go with the ford as a bonus these cars came factory with disk brakes and have a parking brake as well. hopes this helps chris <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">
 

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how about and 8" rear out of a TRD taco with the e-locker. Then put some gussets on it so you don't bend it.

Might be hard ot find though.
 

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Well I don't know how it got bent...it started leaking 80-90 past the axle seal in May on the trail but after nothing spectacular. Replaced bearings/seals but the leak came back...just pulled the whole housing to put on new springs & gearing and noticed the tube right in front of the spring perch was bulging/distorted. I wouldn't be surprised if it dated back to when the prior owner put it in 3 yrs ago after he rolled his Tacoma <IMG SRC="smilies/jeep1.gif" border="0">

Ricktard, yeah I know the 9" isn't in the same class as the D-60/14 bolt but it is stronger than the Toy and is lighter and has more clearance than the others and gears/setup & lockers are all cheap & plentiful. Although there is no OEM disk truck application and most versions would need to be cut down, not sure whats on passenger cars. I'd like to have something in the low 60's for width. What kind of prices can you get for D-60's?

Another alternative I just thought of is getting a Tacoma e-locker rear, take the elocker and put in the front and put a spooled 8" 3rd in the rear. Anybody know if a V6 8" pig will fit in a Taco elocker housing?

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Here is an idea, I know 98 and newer isuzu troopers come with dana 44's with coil springs, Disc brakes and the same bolt pattern as the toy. I don't know if it is worth it strength wise or if it is feasible. My wife says taking the rearend from her 98 trooper to try is a no-no. I can measure the width tomorrow if anybody is interested. I know they say Troopers are roll over prone so if Consumer Reports is right <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> than there should be a million of them in junkyards <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by Sergeant Kajo:
<STRONG>Here is an idea, I know 98 and newer isuzu troopers come with dana 44's with coil springs, Disc brakes and the same bolt pattern as the toy. I don't know if it is worth it strength wise or if it is feasible. My wife says taking the rearend from her 98 trooper to try is a no-no. I can measure the width tomorrow if anybody is interested. I know they say Troopers are roll over prone so if Consumer Reports is right <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> than there should be a million of them in junkyards <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
I believe that Isuzu rodeos also came with the D44 since the early 90's. They are six lug, and many came with disc brakes. If I remember correctly they are supposed to be 58 inches wms to wms.
 

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Yeah, I remember Randi talking about the Isuzu rear axle a month or two ago...I'll see if Search is willing to cooperate tonight <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Use a V6 IFS type toyota axle. The housing is a little stronger, and you will have stronger gears to boot. I cracked my housing at the spring perch and bent both axle shafts. This is what I plan on putting in when I find time. I works fine bent and leaking though. <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">
 

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some of the 70's modle f100's had a 61-62" wide 9". i had one for a while bud sold it. it had the flanged housing, 31spline shafts and big bearings. if you want real beef you can get a cab/chassis dually 14bolt and they only measure 62" wide.
 

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David - Screw getting a Dana 60/14-bolt/ Ford 9". You will just eventually break them, too. What you need is a Dana 135 out of a new F550. Of course you will probably have to run 50" maintain any ground clearance, so you might as well swap out the front as well with one of those alloy 2 1/2 ton jobs from Avalanche. Oh never mind. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

There is a T100 axle in the for sale section. I don't know much about them, but it might work and its not too expensive.
 

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Originally posted by Paniolo:
<STRONG>Another alternative I just thought of is getting a Tacoma e-locker rear, take the elocker and put in the front and put a spooled 8" 3rd in the rear. Anybody know if a V6 8" pig will fit in a Taco elocker housing?</STRONG>
Yes, it should fit, but you'll be missing one stud and there will be less seal area...
Basically look at the e-locker installation into a standard 8" housing and go backards... <IMG SRC="smilies/rasta.gif" border="0">

Somebody mentioned a T100 axle... its the same as the Taco axle (8.4"/8.25") just ~6" wider.

If I was you, I'd just try to find another Taco housing... since its not an e-locker, it shouldn't be so hard to come by...?
 

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Originally posted by Erik Beeb:
<STRONG>If I was you, I'd just try to find another Taco housing... since its not an e-locker, it shouldn't be so hard to come by...?</STRONG>
Thanks Eric...I am looking for a housing but haven't found any reasonable ones yet <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> I did find several Isuzu D-44's with disks locally for $150, I'm kinda liken' that <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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I think some of those Isuzu D44's have a cast Aluminum center section and won't take the standard 44 carriers/gears. They're all the same c-to-c on the spring mounts, but they're SUA instead of SOA.
 

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Originally posted by Sergeant Kajo:
<STRONG>Here is an idea, I know 98 and newer isuzu troopers come with dana 44's with coil springs, Disc brakes and the same bolt pattern as the toy. I don't know if it is worth it strength wise or if it is feasible. My wife says taking the rearend from her 98 trooper to try is a no-no. I can measure the width tomorrow if anybody is interested. I know they say Troopers are roll over prone so if Consumer Reports is right <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> than there should be a million of them in junkyards <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Hey Kajo, I would be interested in how wide that trooper axle is.
 
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