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OK, first question time. I can already hear the resounding howl "SAS!"

My wife's outtta work and in school again, so axle swappin' ain't happening for a while. I just fooled around with getting my torsion bars even again and have them at a point that I can stuff a little larger tire under the truck. The rear's sitting alittle low, though. What's the best plan of attack to get it level again? Options are: a small lift block under the bed, having the overload leaf arched to make up the difference or an outright add-a-leaf.
 

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Assuming you havn't cranked your T-Bars more than an inch or so, you can get 1+1/2 to 2" shackles for the rear and that will make you level for the time being. This is what I did prior to getting my leafs re-arched and an add-a-leaf. My shackles were about $80.00. Brand was Daystar and they're greasable. If you don't care about greasable, you could pick up a pair for about $40.00.
 

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My torsions are only turned up a bit and I also have the non greasable daystar shackles.
gave about 1 1/2" of lift. Dont want them too tight, the shackles give about 2" works well for now though. Just keep some weight in the bed.
 

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<FONT COLOR="Red"> Indeed, blocks are NOT an elegant solution. But using a shackle to achieve lift MAY require you to run a degree shim to correct pinion angle..... pretty much six of one, half dozen of the other.. </FONT c>
 

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Assuming you havn't cranked your T-Bars more than an inch or so
Nope, just to level the front end (I settled the driver's side 3" low over a year since picking them up and then a scooch more so I might not bang 32s. I think what I'm looking at here is a pretty structurally solid front and a beat, weakened rear.

Was thinking on the bounce home that blocks would not really be my first choice. A shackle hadn't occurred to me when I posted, but it had before. Now, can ya stuff any "nearly sized right" shackle under there or does it need to be app/generation specific as listed in the product catalogs. My vehicle decidedly is not on any vendor lists for shackles I've dug up.

What about the other 2 options? More/less viable? And how pray tell, Slick, do I construct a degree shim?

[ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: aknight ]
 

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Originally posted by aknight:
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And how pray tell, Slick, do I construct a degree shim?</STRONG>
<FONT COLOR="Red"> You buy them at any 4x4 shop, they're a common item. <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> Try to find steel ones if you have to run them. The only reason you'd have to run them is if the shackles you use are long enough to change the pinion angle unfavorably (which tends to create noises or vibration). </FONT c>
 

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On my '86 Runner I have SAW T-Bars cranked about 1 inch and Daystar Greasable shackles on the rear. Had to, as I stated before, re-arch my rear springs and added a leaf. I now sit level and run 32 x 11.50's with no clearance problems. I don't rock crawl, so this setup works great for my needs. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
 

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You did mention you'd added both the other fixes with the shackles, didn't you. <IMG SRC="smilies/eyemouth.gif" border="0"> Guess I try to find the folks in town who will deal with the springs. Thing is, still, I'm looking at Central's page at the same time here, and I see zero advertised for my truck. Are these a thing you can make fit or is it very important for them to be app-specific?
 

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I had put my shackles on when my Runner still sat stock just to level the rear. (my springs were almost flat) and I was running with 30 x 9.50's. It was only recently because I wanted larger tires, that I got the SAW's and had them cranked up. Because of this, the rear was lower once again because all the shackles had done was to restore stock height. I then went to a local spring shop and told them that all I wanted to do was raise the rear to match the front. They suggested keeping my shackles on, add a leaf and re-arch the stock springs. They did the job perfectly and only charged me $180.00. I think that was a pretty good deal. Now I have my 32 x 11.50 M/T's and I think this is all I'm gonna do to the height.


P.S. A good spring shop can do whatever you want them to do. I had them go with as long of an add-a-leaf as possible for better ride and flex. I would start with the front and then have the rear done to match. If all you want to do though is eliminate your sag then not all this is necessary.

[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: Recon ]
 

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Try looking for a set of shackles from a Toyota specific offroad store like...The best way to figure out how long a new shackle will need to be is to measure how long your shackle is now (probably ~5":question <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> and then to know the following:</font>

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<IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> diagram

but nonesuch part listed for a T100 at either link. Been scoping out AllPro for a while, forgot about AOR, but presently looks like I gotta measure what I got and get in touch with them for measurments on their parts. Take a ride over to Alaska Spring next week, too, and see what they can do. Looking to have to be a custom job. <IMG SRC="smilies/grinpimp.gif" border="0">
 
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