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I personally used breeze rings but there the same pricipal, they press on to the large section of the birf and give it a little more girth. they are well worth the expence. Side note you do have to clearence the inner of the cup on the axle it can be done in about 10min with a cut 2" cut of wheel.
 

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Am I on the Pirate Board? For a minute there you all had me fooled:D :D

You guys must have Bucs fans, yea that's it! You guys are just being nice cause the Bucs won the Super Bowl!!!!!;)
 

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When I was running Samurai axles I had Breeze rings installed.

When climbing back whith tires full turned I broke a birfield without damage the rings!

I was running 33" SSwampers LTB


 

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A guy we wheel with has the rings and ended up breaking the shaft right at the splines.
A piece of the shaft got loose and tore up his ring gear.

when you break a shaft it makes a 30 min axle change into an 2 hour event.
 

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It's somewhat a crappy compromise.

I got lucky and caught my broken shaft early
and used one of those telescope magnets to fetch
out the broken bit.
 

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Trail Tough sells what he calls "Double Tough" front axles for $619 a pair. They use a 26 spline axle and a stronger Birfield. I suspect(or read somewhere) that these are Subaru axles. Has anyone put these in or know if they really are Subaru axles? $619 is a bunch of money if I can find these at PNP.

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If you use rings or cups, the outcome is about the same. It takes a bit more abuse, but it doesn't make them bulletproof, especially after folks started going larger than 33's. They do, however 'contain the blast' when the birf shreads the splines.

You have to remember that the birf is your built in fuse. when you beef it up without going to stronger axle shafts then you are running the risk of moving that fuse farther into the housing and start snapping shafts...:D BTDT
 

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terrymac said:
Trail Tough sells what he calls "Double Tough" front axles for $619 a pair. They use a 26 spline axle and a stronger Birfield. I suspect(or read somewhere) that these are Subaru axles. Has anyone put these in or know if they really are Subaru axles? $619 is a bunch of money if I can find these at PNP.

terrymac
No they're not Subaru axles,they are a generic Birfield/CV joint
that has a Samurai stub shaft welded to it.The inner shaft is a
custom job that used to be made by Dutchman.I don't know who
makes them now.Brentt?
 

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BillJohn just reinforced what I was saying.

If you have indestructable birfields, then what is your next weakest point?

$619 - I think I could do a toy axle swap for a little more.
 

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terrymac said:
Trail Tough sells what he calls "Double Tough" front axles for enough money to swap in Toyota axles, or buy 3-4 Longfields. Whichever you prefer.
[MattS]There you go. All better. :flipoff2: [/MattS]
 

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SilverZuk said:
BillJohn just reinforced what I was saying.

If you have indestructable birfields, then what is your next weakest point?

$619 - I think I could do a toy axle swap for a little more.
Toy axles are much heavier than sami axles with a 26 spline shaft.
 

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terrymac said:
Trail Tough sells what he calls "Double Tough" front axles for $619 a pair. They use a 26 spline axle and a stronger Birfield. I suspect(or read somewhere) that these are Subaru axles. Has anyone put these in or know if they really are Subaru axles? $619 is a bunch of money if I can find these at PNP.

terrymac
The Double Toughs surprisingly hold up very well, but they still can break. That was one major deciding factor I came across before doing yota axles. I wanted unbreakable strength with the lightest axles possable so yotas combined with longfields were my ticket. It is nice to not even have to think about a burfield when I'm out on the rocks.
 

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terrymac said:
I suspect(or read somewhere) that these are Subaru axles.
That's kinda funny! Guess who makes the 4-wheel (or is that ALL-wheel) drive components for Subaru? I'll give you a hint - think of a big red S. Yup Suzuki.
 
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