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From shocks one day to popping stereo the next, you are definitely covering all bases?



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It's done it a few times before..... But it's raining again and does it just about every time now..... Ugh. Scares the shit out of the dog when it does it in the middle of the night. Nothing like a 100lb scared German Shepard jumping in your bed....

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Shocks and windshield could be domino effect.

If you have full coverage insurance a windshield is probably covered with a crack or chips.
 

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Shocks and windshield could be domino effect.



If you have full coverage insurance a windshield is probably covered with a crack or chips.
It's been doing this awhile, just reminded of it now that's its been raining again....

There is a chip, but otherwise good. I'll call the local glass place for a remove and reseal/install quote

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It's been doing this awhile, just reminded of it now that's its been raining again....

There is a chip, but otherwise good. I'll call the local glass place for a remove and reseal/install quote

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If you have glass coverage a rock thrown up by the vehicle in front of you while driving down a gravel road would make it so that it was covered by insurance...

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Just thinking to myself and out loud I guess.

If I need more height in the bags, and don't want lift why not just trim the lower bag mount down an inch? I'm assuming the bags will be Ok higher.

Probably not all that hard to unbolt them, cut them down and reweld. They are the ones with the angled plate.


 

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Seems to be a resonable assumption. Go 4 it.
Thinking some more..... Then the shock will be the bumpstop. Ugh unless I can perfectly predict the internal bump stop and have them both hit at the same time

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Cant u just put the bag in a vice or step on it and measure what its minimum height can be and then go from there? Is there enough room for an external bump? Can u raise the upper shock mount assuming it cant go to full extension now?
 

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Cant u just put the bag in a vice or step on it and measure what its minimum height can be and then go from there? Is there enough room for an external bump? Can u raise the upper shock mount assuming it cant go to full extension now?
I can dump the air just like I did, truck is a big vise :D

External stop would be a PITA.

If I need shorter shocks I will work with Accutune to get them.... I gave them the measurement from the lower bolt to the mount with the bags at 8" tall.... But yes and no... There is a LOT of shit right above the shock mount, but it could be done. Lower might be easier to drop!
 

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Spring rates.... Needs to be high enough to hold the weight. Unless I'm crazy I can't get any less?

Added zip Ties to the shock shaft. Definately not bottoming on the bags bump stop. Only about 2.5" of movement on the uptravel anyway.

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And.... My oil leak is getting worse! Grrrr no idea where it's coming from now. Looks like rear main ish as the most of it is around the back of the oil pan and the bellhousing.

Upper pan doesn't look like it's leaking.

Underside is well oiled now...




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Begin ramble...

Spring rates. you need a minimum to hold the weight up. No two ways around that. BUT with the air bags, you have to add pressure to get the height. A spring can be made taller at the same spring rate correct? Where in the air bag the spring rate is increased with air pressure. However in theory the spring rate is as low as it can be to hold the weight at X height?

Zip ties on the shock shafts show I am not using the front suspension. Nearly NOT AT ALL. When I got to the start of gravel, I hopped out, three fingers of movement on the shaft, ~2.5" uptravel.... Thats not much (and not bottoming out on the bags)

Here is after a pretty decently rough section. A bit more movement, but still not much...


I did try inflating the bags to 9" tall. No difference, a bit worse even perhaps (more spring rate...). And they sit funky on the bases like that, not happy looking.


Frustrated.

Should I go back to coils? Just try to find taller softer ones?! Anyone have an idea of spring rate needed? 6200lbs on the front axle.


Went and played on the rocks.





Shoved my phone in and took a bunch of pictures.... This one caught my eye once it was on the computer. Looks like possibly the dipstick (or whatever that tube is..)? There is no "gunk" stuck there, high flow spot?
 

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So you're still having the same issue as before the new shocks, and the shocks, nor bags, are bottoming out when it happens, based on the zip tie trick?

As for the oil leak, holy shit that's a lot of oil. Is the dipstick connected in that picture? Looks like it's not.
 

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So you're still having the same issue as before the new shocks, and the shocks, nor bags, are bottoming out when it happens, based on the zip tie trick?

As for the oil leak, holy shit that's a lot of oil. Is the dipstick connected in that picture? Looks like it's not.
Correct, nothing seems to be bottoming at all. I am using hardly any suspension travel :(

And yeah.... Its a ton more than it used to be!! Its always leaked a little, but not like that. I didn't even see the dipstick when I was under there.... Only in the pictures. I will have to clean up and investigate.

Its just a Oring and a retainer clip/tab it looks like. Oring shit the bed perhaps?

 

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That oil "leak" is just Ford's way of keeping the frame from rusting.

How much pressure do you have in the bags now? What # are the bags?
 

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That oil "leak" is just Ford's way of keeping the frame from rusting.



How much pressure do you have in the bags now? What # are the bags?
Yeah.... It was a lot smaller before....

Running 75-78psi



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Ok some progress!

Took the truck to the store, hit a couple big hills and got oil to 200 degrees.

Half a roll of paper towels and a can of brake clean later we have this. Clean ish.



Idled in the driveway for 10 mins, now look at the bolt holding the dipstick! Should I replace the whole thing or just try to do the Oring?



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Ok some progress!

Took the truck to the store, hit a couple big hills and got oil to 200 degrees.

Half a roll of paper towels and a can of brake clean later we have this. Clean ish.



Idled in the driveway for 10 mins, now look at the bolt holding the dipstick! Should I replace the whole thing or just try to do the Oring?





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If it is easy to get to change just the O ring otherwise change it all
 

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If it is easy to get to change just the O ring otherwise change it all
There is a reason I'm using my phone to just take pics. I can't see there lol.

But two bolts and I can pull the tube out o think. Upper one is going to suck to get to.

But I'm going to aim to change the Oring only. I have a giant box of viton ones. Hopefully one fits.

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I'd replace the o-ring and put some thread sealant, not thread locker, on the bottom bolt.


As for your suspension, it seems you need enough pressure to get the necessary height out of your bags that you're too high on the spring rate for your truck. I'd call whomever sold you those bags to see what their opinion is. Perhaps they have a different bag that will allow the same height at a lower pressure for a cushier ride.
 
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