A small group of us ran the Rubicon from the Tahoe side because we had always heard it was more tough that direction. It did not materialize, going up the Big Sluice was easier than going down it. All the way to the Old Sluice was fine. I walked right up when I noticed my son was not behind me. I walked back down, and noticed that he was having a little trouble. It seems he was intent on hitting all of the rocks. Then he managed to break a ujoint and take out the inner and out axles with it. He has ordered the Dutchman Alloys that are Warn 4340 Axles cut to length. I told him it would be cheaper to raise his Jeep six more inches and stay in the parking lot. What do you think?