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Hey Guys

i am getting ready to rip apart my Dana30 to weld up the spiders and my buddy wants me to remove the shafts and everything so when i go to his place to weld it, all we have to do is pull the carrier.

taking a good look at this, it looks like the shafts hold the Unit bearing together with that big nut on the end and it cant be run without a shaft missing?

am i right on this??

thanks
 

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Yes, it can be. I'm looking for the pictures of when we did this, it's hilarious.
 

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Originally posted by Boston Mangler:
<STRONG>Hey Guys

i am getting ready to rip apart my Dana30 to weld up the spiders and my buddy wants me to remove the shafts and everything so when i go to his place to weld it, all we have to do is pull the carrier.

taking a good look at this, it looks like the shafts hold the Unit bearing together with that big nut on the end and it cant be run without a shaft missing?

am i right on this??

thanks</STRONG>

You have to leave the outers on I believe.
 

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Look at the picture. Pay attention to what we closed the end of the tube with. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

 

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Originally posted by Mo:
<STRONG>CJ: Yes
TWXYZJ: No</STRONG>
You can run without the shafts on a TJ. No problem. Been there, done that.
 

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thanks guys

i will leave it in until i get there

ta ta
 

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You can run it without shafts but like in the previous post you do need the stub shaft to hold the bearing assembly together. Pull the shafts and remove the u-joints. Put the stub shafts and bearing assembly back on. Shove some rags in the end of the tubes so you don't lose all your gear oil. Whatever you do don't take the big nut off the stub shaft just remove the u-joints.
 

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Originally posted by badassjeepguy:
<STRONG>warning warning alert.... you must have the outter shaft on ... it holds the bearing together... i lost both front wheels at 40 mph trying that trick one time.... whatever anyone else say's is wrong!


YOU MUST HAVE THE OUTER SHAFT ON.......</STRONG>
HEHEHEHEHEHEHH

That was some funny shit!!!!!

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Have ya thought of getting a real differential and maybe going for a Dana44 or maybe even a Dana60 <IMG SRC="smilies/idea.gif" border="0">
 

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Umm, why can't you run it w/o the outer shaft? As long as the hub nuts are in they hold the bearings in and the spindle on, wtf are you smoking?

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Originally posted by xBabyJesus:
<STRONG>Umm, why can't you run it w/o the outer shaft? As long as the hub nuts are in they hold the bearings in and the spindle on, wtf are you smoking?

xBabyJesus</STRONG>
Because with the weight and leverage of the wheel and tire on you'd be putting pressure on the lug studs which in turn would twist and pull the bearing assembly apart. With the stub shaft in place it keeps the hub bearing assembly intact.

Now where'd i put that Bong?... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by xBabyJesus:
<STRONG>Umm, why can't you run it w/o the outer shaft? As long as the hub nuts are in they hold the bearings in and the spindle on, wtf are you smoking?

xBabyJesus</STRONG>
Have you actually pulled apart your axle, hub assembly. If you had you would realize that the hub nut is screwed on to the stub shaft which holds the bearing together. But hey maybe your blessed by a higher power so try and run your rig without the stub shaft in place. See you on the 10 o'clock news. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

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Originally posted by TornadoTJ:
<STRONG>Look at the picture. Pay attention to what we closed the end of the tube with. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
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Mmmmmmmmmmm Jello good <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by TornadoTJ:
<STRONG>You can run without the shafts on a TJ. No problem. Been there, done that.</STRONG>
NO - You can only run w/o the inner shafts. The outer stubs are needed to keep the bearing pack in the bearing hub assembly. I had a friend who tried to run w/o outer shafts installed. I told him that he needed the stubs to keep his solid hub together, but he was convinced he did'nt. Ran down the road for a bit, and his hub came apart and his wheel went bouncing down the road. I happened to have a spare bearing hub - and I loaned it to him. I told him to put in the stub shafts - but he was convinced he didn't need to - even after the loss of the first one. After a short ways down the trail - he lost his wheel again. Fortunately - no one was hurt.

In short - you MUST run w/ the outer stubs installed.
 

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Originally posted by xBabyJesus:
<STRONG>Umm, why can't you run it w/o the outer shaft? As long as the hub nuts are in they hold the bearings in and the spindle on, wtf are you smoking?

xBabyJesus</STRONG>
You're the one smokin, dude. The hub nuts screw on to the outter stubs. With out the stub shafts you'll be holding your nuts in your hand.
 

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?? Are you talking about only newer TJs and YJ's with non-locking hubs?

I pulled my front apart no less than a week ago due to a busted knuckle, i have no shafts on either side, works fine.

-J
 

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Originally posted by xBabyJesus:
<STRONG>?? Are you talking about only newer TJs and YJ's with non-locking hubs?

I pulled my front apart no less than a week ago due to a busted knuckle, i have no shafts on either side, works fine.

-J</STRONG>
Solid hub TJ's, YJ's, XJ's and ZJ's REQUIRE the outter stub to keep the bearing pack together. You may get away with it for a short time - kinda like a guy playing Russian Roulette...after the first couple of clicks, he thinks everything is juuuust fine, then BLAMMO - guess he was wrong.

You're really gonna hurt someone. Do yourself and anyone else near you a favor and install the outter stubs. REALLY.

[ 10-02-2001: Message edited by: AzJeep ]
 
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