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That's the Up n' Over full cage and it is SWEET, but when you take into account that they want $1995 for that cage that still has to be put together and painted or powdercoated ,I think you can do better. I took that exact picture to my local drag shop and they quoted 500 for it and another 55 to have it coated. A pretty big savings.

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$2000 bones??? That's insane in the membrane!

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Wow I had no idea they wanted 2K for that. Someone is <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> smokin' crack. <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> nice cage but too mucho dinero! Where could I get something like this done in the Sacramento area? (Calif)
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Email Lance...the Web Daddy. His ARCA partner Bob Roggy is an AWESOME tube bender and I think he is near Sacramento.He built Jeremy Fisher's ARCA cruiser and it is mucho fino.

Check out my pics in the album below. It is the green Cruiser in my ARCA album.
 

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NICE CAGE............

I BET ALL THOSE CURLY PIECES OF TUBING MAKE IT A LOT STRONGER.......ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY GO UNDER THE DASH HORIZONTILLY.....

NICE WORK THOUGH..............
 

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looks a little bit like a BTB cage at first glance; they're even prouder ($) of their's. for 2K you can have bob build you a kick-ass cage and buy a set of tires and.......
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2000 is not that high for a cage with that much work in it > if you think that it's high , try buying a bender then learn how to use it and see how much material cost ..
the front s curved bars scare me straight is strong , curved is weak i wouldnt want to be in that during a hard end over roll . it looks cool but the reason you build a cage is to save ones life .. unless your a poser and just drive it to grab a cup of coffee <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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the front curved bars hook into the door pillars. i've seen two roll over with that cage and one guy crashed doing 65 on the highway and rolled 3 times and the cage was alright.

they are expensive but there is only 2 people in the shop and everything they do is pretty much one off custom work.(i worked there part time for around 3 years)

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Originally posted by fatkid:
<STRONG>In your opinion how much is alot for a cage?</STRONG>
fatkid that is alot for a cage ...
if you were to ad up the hours that went into that cage the labor would ad up quick is all i am saying ..
i could build that cage for less how much less dont know maybe 500 bucks less .
the point being , the average guy that goes into a shop is going to pay time and materials that cage has a lot of work in it . is it high i think so because i build cages , would i charge that much no .
it's just funny how some of these guys have no clue what goes into custom fabrication
so to end this yes i think it's high ...
but if you cant do it your self or have a friend with a bender then yes it's still high but in the ballpark of what custom work goes for ..
 

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Originally posted by davefj40:
<STRONG>the front curved bars hook into the door pillars. i've seen two roll over with that cage and one guy crashed doing 65 on the highway and rolled 3 times and the cage was alright.

they are expensive but there is only 2 people in the shop and everything they do is pretty much one off custom work.(i worked there part time for around 3 years)

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crashed at 65 ,three rollovers and the cage is fine ,, no offence but i call hogwash post some pix ...
i understand you sticking up for friends that own the shop but i want pix of it surviving a high speed multi roll over ..
fact is straight is stronger than a piece with those big s curves ..i have seen cages that hook into the a pillar they were not the first to do that i believe butch lewis was the first and theirs is a copy of that design maybe not a direct copy but a copy none the less the a pillar is a very good tie point for a cage they appear to do very nice work although i have never seen it in person .. that cage looks great i just dont think s curved front bars are as strong ..
the design overall will work in a roll because the rear double hoop will take up most of the force but if the front of the cage were hit hard first who knows ..
 

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sorry, i meant alright as in it did it's job. nothing on a fj is gonna look good after three rolls on the highway.

i agree that straight bars are stronger. no question. this design is to free up the floor for the driver, i'm sure there are good and bad points to every design. i don't build cages myself but i had one of these and it seemed really strong in my fj-40, but i never rolled mine.

there prices are high, even if you work there like i did but they do have good quality stuff. i'm getting a front bumper for my 60 built right now because i don't have the equipment to do it at home or the garage to do it in (hopefully in spring that will be built, with radiant floor heating). they are basically a landcruiser shop for people who can't do there own work, that's why most people on this board can and will do it cheaper. factor in all the beer and labor you do at home and add a markup for overhead and the price wont seem that bad (at least with the amount of beer me and my friends drink)

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Sorry guys, But I think it's <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0">

I do however understand you have to give the customer what they want MOST OF THE TIME, but when it comes to cage work you to put your foot down sometimes....

I myself, wouldn't take the chance with liabilty on that cage....IMO.


you and I are in the same boat on this one FJ JUNK.

2 k sounds like alot, but does that include install? paint?
 

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Tin Bender,

That was the price I was quoted over the phone for the cage alone. It was then shipped out in three main pieces without paint and spreaders and you had to have it welded together, then have it painted, then installed. Man that is alot of work for a 2k cage.
 

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DAYYYYUUUUMMMMMMMM!!!!!!
I'm not try'n sell stuff, but I a cage "like" that @ our shop, install'd would be $1200/1500....
 

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there asking 2k for it shipped then you have to intall it? things have changed there in the last year and a half. i helped bend a couple and fit them/remove/paint/install again and i think they were 1500 when i was there but that was finished in the vehicle. i would say 2k then you have alot of work left is way too much.

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I am in the process of building my cage now. I bought the jd2 bender,2''die,and a tube notcher. that ran me about $750 w/shipping give or take a little. I bought 130' of DOM .120 wall 2''tube at about $2.30/ft. All of that has me out for about $1000. I havent kept up with the time spent on the cage but I could probably say over 20 hours. A lot of this time can be counted as a learning process though. I have the rear portion of the cage all tacked in place and have started on the front part. I still have to add gussets,complete all of the welds,pull the cage back out and prep and paint it. I have done 99% of the work with no help at all and expect to burn another 20 hours or so in completing it. I may have been able to get one built for around $1200 or so but I never checked. I'd rather do this stuff myself. In the end, I still have the bender,notcher, and experience to do other cages as they come. I would say that if you have some fab skills and equip to do it,buy the bender and go for it.
 
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