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CLOSURE-South Park Canyon Bridge...

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Some of you have probably heard the rumors by now, but they are not rumors. I spoke with Craig Beck at the Ridgecrest BLM office on Monday and this is confirmed.

Last week the BLM erected signs limiting the crossing of South Park Canyon bridge in the Panamint Mountains to motorcycles and ATV's only. This is the result of an inspection by the BLM State engineer. The engineer wanted the bridge closed completely, the Ridgecrest BLM office wanted to keep some access, and this is the result.

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DO NOT CROSS THE BRIDGE IN ANY "FULL SIZE" VEHICLE


I have received word that if any vehicles other than motorcycles and ATV's are caught crossing, or even worse, if another vehicle rolls or has any other problems between the signs it may result in a complete closure of the route between the signs.


Do not be the person that gets South Park Canyon closed to everyone else.​


The possibility of reopening the route to "full size" vehicles in the future still exists. It will be a long process and ignoring the signs would be counter-productive to any future efforts.


Access to upper South Park Canyon and Middle Park Canyon is still available by way of the road up Pleasant Canyon to the north.


John Stewart of the "California Association of 4 Wheel Drive Clubs" composed a letter to Hector Villalobos, Field Office Manager at the Ridgecrest office of the BLM stating the position of Cal4Wheel on the loss of access on the road...

May 3, 2011

Hector Villalobos
Field Manager
Bureau of Land Management
Ridgecrest Field Office

300 S. Richmond Rd.
Ridgecrest, CA 93555


Subject: South Park to Pleasant Canyon Loop Route

Mr. Villalobos:
This letter is to express California Association of 4 Wheel Drive Clubs concern over recent administrative actions and encourage Bureau of Land Management to enter into planning to accomplish the necessary route upgrades and repairs necessary to keep the South Park to Pleasant Canyon loop open to all motorized vehicles.

While the main focus of CA4WDC is to protect, promote, and provide for motorized recreation opportunities on public and private lands, many of our members participate in multiple forms of recreation; including but not limited to hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, horseback riding, bicycle riding, and gem and mineral collection.

We recognize the positive health and social benefits that can be achieved through outdoor activities. We also recognize that motorized recreation provides the small business owners in the local communities a significant financial stimulus. And, our members are directly affected by management decisions concerning public land use.

Our members subscribe to the concepts of: 1) public access to public lands for their children and grandchildren; 2) condition and safety of the environment; and 3) sharing our natural heritage. The general public desires access to public lands now and for future generations. Limiting access today deprives our children the opportunity to view the many natural wonders of public lands. The general public is deeply concerned about the condition of the environment and personal safety. They desire wildlife available for viewing and scenic vistas to enjoy. They also want to feel safe while enjoying these natural wonders. Lastly, the public desires to share the natural heritage with friends and family today as well as in the future. How can our children learn and appreciate our natural heritage when native species are allowed to deteriorate and historic routes are routinely blocked or eradicated from existence? A major part of CA4WDC is providing motorized recreation opportunity to the public through its numerous events throughout the state.

One highly popular event is Panamint Valley Days (PVD), which has completed 25 successful years. Panamint Valley Days held each fall under Special Recreation Permit issued by BLM Ridgecrest Field Office uses a number of designated routes in the region during its event. One of the more popular trails rides is the South Park to Pleasant Canyon loop. It was recently revealed that this particular route has been closed to full-sized vehicles due to safety concerns with a bridge. Meanwhile, the route does remain fully open to Side by Sides, ATV's, and motorcycles consistent with BLM and National Park Service use designation of the route.

Contact with the Ridgecrest BLM Field Office indicates the access across the bridge section has been administratively limited to lighter weight vehicles with concurrence of the BLM State Engineer until appropriate actions can be accomplished to stabilize and strengthen the section.

CA4WDC has used this route as part of its annual PVD event for the past 25 years. This route offers an opportunity for novice and intermediate skilled driver to view historic mining operations in the region and opportunities for other recreation pursuits such as rock hounding, photography and wildlife viewing.

CA4WDC strives to promote responsible recreation through education as a component of their events. The loss of routes like this hinder the ability of CA4WDC to promote the educational component where driving skills are stressed which results in lessening of future resource damage.

CA4WDC encourages BLM to review their position on the route and enter into planning to accomplish the necessary route upgrades and repairs necessary to keep the South Park to Pleasant Canyon loop open to all motorized vehicles. CA4WDC is willing to discuss public-private partnership opportunities to accomplish the actions necessary to keep this route as part of the recreation inventory.

Respectfully,
John Stewart
Natural Resources Consultant
California Association of 4 Wheel Drive Clubs
Cc:
Bureau of Land Management, California State Office
Bureau of Land Management, California Desert District

If you would like to voice your concern regarding this closure please send a short, to the point letter to Hector Villalobos at the address at the top of the letter quoted above. Be polite and mention what access thru the area, and loss of that access, means to you.


With the coming heat, travel in the Panamint Valley will subside for the summer. This is good as it gives us time to educate the public and work towards the possibility of re-opening this route. If you are on any other forums or club lists where people that use the area congregate, please spread the word.

Thanks,
k.
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Mistakes have been made and people have fallen off. S##t happens. Unfortunately we all pay.
Helen,

John's letter did not remind BLM that OHMVR has money available for reconstruction of spots like this. We should be pushing hard and not rolling over on this issue. We can find the eco issues hard to argue and win, but this seems a no brainer. GO GET EM!!

What about a special use permit for PVD?? Take this guy out and show him what these vehicles are all about. Time to get involved people!! Somebody take this bull by the horns. This one seems so easy to fix.

Scott
Helen,

John's letter did not remind BLM that OHMVR has money available for reconstruction of spots like this. We should be pushing hard and not rolling over on this issue. We can find the eco issues hard to argue and win, but this seems a no brainer. GO GET EM!!

Scott
I totally agree. BLM is full of crap this time, in my opinion.
Helen,

John's letter did not remind BLM that OHMVR has money available for reconstruction of spots like this. We should be pushing hard and not rolling over on this issue. We can find the eco issues hard to argue and win, but this seems a no brainer. GO GET EM!!

What about a special use permit for PVD?? Take this guy out and show him what these vehicles are all about. Time to get involved people!! Somebody take this bull by the horns. This one seems so easy to fix.

Scott
Scott,

Your comment should be addressed to the Cal 4 President, Mark Cave. I am only a member, and I only saw John's letter after it was posted here. Mr. Cave would also be the one to contact with questions about PVD's permit.

Cal4 Wheel contact info is available on their website. www.cal4wheel.com
Any updates?

I led a group of Rovers across the bridge the day it got closed -- I can tell you it looked to be in great shape - no worse than when we did it in the past. Sent email to BLM to complain about the closure (especially when you approach it end of day from the top-side) -- they'd said something about posting up a sign in Ballarat to warn people not to attempt the loop. The issue seemed to be that an engineer condemned the bridge -- but reading between the lines the Chicken rock incidents drew attention to it. Was wondering if there were plans in place to remedy the bridge situation -- or is Chicken rock the latest Suprise Canyon type closure?
I think they hired a Sierra Club engineer. We should have an engineer un-condemn it.
Why is it that the so-called people in our corner never gain any ground against people like the sierra club, BLM, etc (insert lobby group). I stopped giving to the NRA (I'm an avid shooter and law abiding citizen) because they stopped producing results and they basically gave up on California, thanks to Calguns and the CRPA (who i support) we are finally getting some rights back. It seems like the privately funded grassroots groups get more done than the big money. Has groups like CA4WD(whom i've given to in the past) and Blue ribbon coalition given up or are they just throwing rocks at a battleship, where does our money go, because were not gaining any new trails, and were losing the battle keeping trails open, (Surprise cyn, Santiago cyn, parts of red rock, parts of Gorman ohv, possibly Johnson valley. I'm not trying to be a negative nancy or a dick but i get tired of these groups saying they need more and more money to fight the good fight...i know ill probably get attacked for my opinion, after all it is the pirate board but these are hard questions that need answers, first its the bridge then its the loop soon it will be Panamint. the gov is a slippery slope everyone knows that. Its nice to see BFgoodrich finally protecting their interests in the off-road market by getting into land access(sponsoring trails) but whats its gonna take. Just voicing an opinion nothing personal, I love the outdoors and just want my future children to be able to see the beautiful places i've been able to.
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I think Crusty is right. We are giving the money to the wrong people. We are using money to fight them. The lawyers get rich. Let's give the congress people the money in exchange for favors (it has to be a strong democrat). I bet you get them to listen. What we are doing is not working.
Why is it that the so-called people in our corner never gain any ground against people like the sierra club,
Sierra Club has 1.4 million members. CA4WDC has less than 4000. Who do you think wins???
Hey Kris or Helen, (or anybody in the know)

Are there any updates on this? I miss this route and hope to do it again someday.

Mike
Hey Mike.

There is a local group (aka, a group of locals) working with BLM on it. Im in somewhat regular contact with one of them. The BLM does want it to be reopened, but as of now it is still closed to all but motorcycles and UTV's... Which if not street licensed cant go much past the closure anyway.

You planning to head out that way again ?

k.
Sierra Club has 1.4 million members. CA4WDC has less than 4000. Who do you think wins???
It is easy to file a lawsuit, using the endangered species act, etc. Much harder and more $$$ to fight it and overturn a closure. This is the CBD's bread and butter.
Hey Mike.

There is a local group (aka, a group of locals) working with BLM on it. Im in somewhat regular contact with one of them. The BLM does want it to be reopened, but as of now it is still closed to all but motorcycles and UTV's... Which if not street licensed cant go much past the closure anyway.

You planning to head out that way again ?

k.
Well, I am ALWAYS thinking about going! I had the best time when you, Chris, Rotozuk and I covered Panamint a couple years back. Got some fantastic Bighorn pics too!

We just went up to the Salt Tram in Feb and had a pretty fun time. If you want company in PV any time soon, send over a pm. Pretty sure we could rope Wayne (rotozuk) into another trip too.

Mike
Hey Mike.

There is a local group (aka, a group of locals) working with BLM on it. Im in somewhat regular contact with one of them. The BLM does want it to be reopened, but as of now it is still closed to all but motorcycles and UTV's... Which if not street licensed cant go much past the closure anyway.

You planning to head out that way again ?

k.

This is good to hear.
The BLM applied for an OHV grant to fix the bridge. The grant awards announcement is June 3. We'll see what happens then.
The BLM applied for an OHV grant to fix the bridge. The grant awards announcement is June 3. We'll see what happens then.
Huh. Never woulda guessed that.
The BLM applied for an OHV grant to fix the bridge. The grant awards announcement is June 3. We'll see what happens then.
Very Kool, good news!
Yes, good news indeed.
The BLM applied for an OHV grant to fix the bridge. The grant awards announcement is June 3. We'll see what happens then.
Any news?
I asked. Should have an answer shortly.

k.
Nice! Anyone know what the amount of the grant was? I bet there are some folks that would contribute, if needed....either in sweat equity or cash...
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